Banker Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 A good fish restaurant similar to the Boatyard would be good where tacoma is, the fish restaurant which is now Vibe the vegetarian place was never replaced and little fish is overpriced for the product plus annoyingly they add 12.5% gratuity onto bill . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 47 minutes ago, jackwhite said: I didn't say it wasn't. The comment was 'great boozer', not successful one. I don't think this is a great concept either, given there's it seems to be similar to Oscars. I think it's even the old Oscars manager now. So they'll be going after their market. In short, they went for that sort of crowd with Tacoma thinking they could win people away from Wine Down. It clearly didn't work. This looks similar with Oscars, again within a stones throw of it. I don't think they understand that sort of clientele enough. Regardless, in 18-24 months time, I think we'll be talking about either them or Oscars closing. The front porch is always busy Good choice of beers Decent grub Karaoke nights, quiz nights Sports Had about 100 in on Sunday night for the superbowl Like I say great boozer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 50 minutes ago, jackwhite said: 'great boozer' ... It's a great boozer only because it's supported by the last of the great boozers on the island. One of the few pubs left that have more than 30 customers a night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 7 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: The front porch is always busy Good choice of beers Decent grub Karaoke nights, quiz nights Sports Had about 100 in on Sunday night for the superbowl Like I say great boozer I'm looking for better beer than AB Inbev. I could go on. It appeals to a demographic and it is successful. That doesn't mean the new place automatically will be. It's an entirely different concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 14 minutes ago, jackwhite said: I'm looking for better beer than AB Inbev. I could go on. It appeals to a demographic and it is successful. That doesn't mean the new place automatically will be. It's an entirely different concept. It seems the demographic targeted is the one that keeps pubs open. As I say the food that do is better than anything in brewery pubs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 6 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: It seems the demographic targeted is the one that keeps pubs open. As I say the food that do is better than anything in brewery pubs. I'm not arguing that. I've said at least three times now it's been successful. You're not setting a high benchmark on the food there. I get you like it. That's fine. But the beer is generic AB Inbev stuff. It might be better than what's available on the Isle of Man in most places, it still doesn't mean it's good. I don't like anything from Ab Inbev, Heineken, Coors or any of the other giants, to be frank. You may. Again, that's your choice and I'm in a minority. They did say they would have craft beer when they opened. They don't. It still says it on their window though. For you it's a 'great boozer'. You're the only one here saying that so far. At least one person has hinted they think otherwise too. This new place will not appeal to the same demographic. I don't see most of the customers of TFP as cocktail drinkers or that like specialist wine (assuming of course it's specialist wine they do). Hence why I've said it doesn't automatically mean it will be successful. Edited February 13 by jackwhite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha-acid Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 4 minutes ago, jackwhite said: I'm not arguing that. I've said at least three times now it's been successful. You're not setting a high benchmark on the food there. I get you like it. That's fine. But the beer is generic AB Inbev stuff. It might be better than what's available on the Isle of Man in most places, it still doesn't mean it's good. I don't like anything from Ab Inbev, Heineken, Coors or any of the other giants, to be frank. You may. Again, that's your choice and I'm in a minority. They did say they would have craft beer when they opened. They don't. It still says it on their window though. For you it's a 'great boozer'. You're the only one here saying that so far. At least one person has hinted they think otherwise too. This new place will not appeal to the same demographic. I don't see most of the customers of TFP as cocktail drinkers or that like specialist wine (assuming of course it's specialist wine they do). Hence why I've said it doesn't automatically mean it will be successful. Ah but they did, whilst I was brewing at Hooded Ram they took the beer frequently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, alpha-acid said: Ah but they did, whilst I was brewing at Hooded Ram they took the beer frequently Sorry Mike, I should have been clear. I meant good craft beer. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha-acid Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Just now, jackwhite said: Sorry Mike, I should have been clear. I meant good craft beer. You sir a snob who wouldn't recognise good beer at all, you are so pretentious and think you know more about beer than anybody, in fact you would not know an IBU from and Iso humulone 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StCatherine Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 12 minutes ago, jackwhite said: I'm not arguing that. I've said at least three times now it's been successful. You're not setting a high benchmark on the food there. I get you like it. That's fine. But the beer is generic AB Inbev stuff. It might be better than what's available on the Isle of Man in most places, it still doesn't mean it's good. I don't like anything from Ab Inbev, Heineken, Coors or any of the other giants, to be frank. You may. Again, that's your choice and I'm in a minority. They did say they would have craft beer when they opened. They don't. It still says it on their window though. For you it's a 'great boozer'. You're the only one here saying that so far. At least one person has hinted they think otherwise too. This new place will not appeal to the same demographic. I don't see most of the customers of TFP as cocktail drinkers or that like specialist wine (assuming of course it's specialist wine they do). Hence why I've said it doesn't automatically mean it will be successful. Are you bottle monkey in disguise 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, alpha-acid said: You sir a snob who wouldn't recognise good beer at all, you are so pretentious and think you know more about beer than anybody, in fact you would not know an IBU from and Iso humulone 🤣 Chill Mike it was a joke. I don't pretend I know more about beer than anybody. Quite the opposite. I know though that there's a lot better out there than what's brewed on the Isle of Man. 2 minutes ago, StCatherine said: Are you bottle monkey in disguise 🤔 Nah. I'm just not a fan of mass-produced beers mate. That said, I rarely go out here these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I think every time the discussion comes to restaurants and bars, Jack has this natural ability to come across as a bit of a pretentious knob. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, NoTailT said: I think every time the discussion comes to restaurants and bars, Jack has this natural ability to come across as a bit of a pretentious knob. I'm not pretentious I just know what's available in other places. Does that make me a pretentious knob that I think there's few places worth spending money in here, because there's much better quality available in the UK and beyond? If so, then ok, fair enough. As I said, I rarely venture out here anymore due to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Just now, jackwhite said: I know though that there's a lot better out there than what's brewed on the Isle of Man. I dunno...Bushy's are now up to 70+ brews...unfortunately we only get to see 3 at any one time due to local beer economics. There's a massive potential there to bottle and market and export all of that...if we could only find the right millionaire to give it a go. TV and advertising campaigns are essential. Given the number of visitors to the island in the last 30 years...that's one helluva potential export market. Hooded Ram as was, now Odin, has a similar potential with the right backing. A full pint and a guaranteed water quality are good sellers. ...and, given the right govt support, there's a shit load of empty containers currently returning to the UK every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxman1234 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 18 minutes ago, StCatherine said: Are you bottle monkey in disguise 🤔 The Hops expert, you might not of heard of it as it’s poorly signed. Looks like a charity shop that’s closing down from the outside. Although does have some nice craft beer. He likes to competitor bash Edited February 13 by Manxman1234 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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