Happier diner Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 hours ago, Blade Runner said: There is a van parked up on your street that sells burgers if you call the number on the side Its been parked there for months waiting for your call. What van? Explain yourself. There are a few vans dumped on my road. Sadly none of them serving burgers. 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Helmut Fromage Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 10 hours ago, reptar said: It looks a bit half arsed, are you perhaps involved again? 😉 Magnificent post - is his (absolutely nothing to with him obviously) random unmatched chair offy still going in Douglas? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 (edited) On 8/28/2024 at 11:53 AM, reptar said: It looks a bit half arsed, are you perhaps involved again? 😉 Nope. I think it’s being done when they have the chance. If you know the guy you’ll understand why. In the current climate and with folk on the Isle of Man, I don’t know why they’re bothering. Edited September 3 by jackwhite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 On 8/28/2024 at 10:19 PM, Mr Helmut Fromage said: Magnificent post - is his (absolutely nothing to with him obviously) random unmatched chair offy still going in Douglas? Again not mine. It certainly was when I attended the cheese and beer pairing there, a couple of weeks back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 On 8/28/2024 at 3:05 PM, Happier diner said: Corrected Where do I whinge about ones that I can actually go to because they are actually open? I think I am quite constructive in my criticism😇 We’ll have to agree to disagree. You seem to have little understanding of the climate for hospitality businesses. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinpot Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Here is a guaranteed way to close a load more. If this leak is true, then you can say goodbye to hundreds of businesses that we all benefit from. https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/shocking-leaked-report-says-minimum-wage-rise-could-cost-island-businesses-ps188m-718025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfc84 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 2 minutes ago, Tinpot said: Here is a guaranteed way to close a load more. If this leak is true, then you can say goodbye to hundreds of businesses that we all benefit from. https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/shocking-leaked-report-says-minimum-wage-rise-could-cost-island-businesses-ps188m-718025 Employees on the minimum wage, struggling with housing and utility costs will be delighted to know you're not in favour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 11 minutes ago, Tinpot said: Here is a guaranteed way to close a load more. If this leak is true, then you can say goodbye to hundreds of businesses that we all benefit from. https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/shocking-leaked-report-says-minimum-wage-rise-could-cost-island-businesses-ps188m-718025 6 minutes ago, lfc84 said: Employees on the minimum wage, struggling with housing and utility costs will be delighted to know you're not in favour The idea, of course, is to improve government coffers, two ways. Equalise minimum and living wage, there’s more tax and NI, plus there’s less EPA paid out. Most of the low paid will see no more cash in their pockets. But, and I think this is the rub, should we tolerate private enterprises paying such low wages that the tax payer has to top them up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinpot Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 9 minutes ago, lfc84 said: Employees on the minimum wage, struggling with housing and utility costs will be delighted to know you're not in favour I didn’t say I wasn’t in favour from an employees point of view. I said it would probably result in closure of some businesses and reduced hours or reduced staff at others, leaving some of those people without a job at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 9 minutes ago, Tinpot said: I didn’t say I wasn’t in favour from an employees point of view. I said it would probably result in closure of some businesses and reduced hours or reduced staff at others, leaving some of those people without a job at all. That begs the question as to whether the tax payer should subsidise employers running a marginal business by topping up low wages. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinpot Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 minute ago, John Wright said: That begs the question as to whether the tax payer should subsidise employers running a marginal business by topping up low wages. Thats a no from me if its marginal because its badly run or the owners are taking out more than the business can afford. Its a yes if its a business that can evidence the fact that its is being run professionally and efficiently, but that there simply isn’t the market here to enable them to pay the new rates AND its a business that genuinely adds to the lifestyle of those of us who live here and visitors. So no to cafes that are closed on busy days and where the owners drive posh cars funded through the business and go on regular holidays, and yes to a specialist business that helps other businesses not need to go off island for a particular service, but which has a very limited market. Can you imagine the admin overhead at civil service level though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emesde Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 hour ago, Tinpot said: Here is a guaranteed way to close a load more. If this leak is true, then you can say goodbye to hundreds of businesses that we all benefit from. https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/shocking-leaked-report-says-minimum-wage-rise-could-cost-island-businesses-ps188m-718025 Last week you were saying that it was wrong that Tesco were paying so little as £12 per hour now you want sustainable jobs and wages . To quote you "My 16 year old daughter is earning more than that in her summer job!! Do people really think that a more employer paying adults £12 an hour is ok? Wow. I suppose as long as people can buy cheap" Make up your mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinpot Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 6 minutes ago, emesde said: Erm. Not sure where to start with that to be honest. Let me leave this here from Tescos latest preliminary results and see if you can work it out ”For the 2024/25 financial year, we expect retail adjusted operating profit of at least £2.8bn” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 hour ago, John Wright said: But, and I think this is the rub, should we tolerate private enterprises paying such low wages that the tax payer has to top them up? if government was sized accordingly and spending was kept under control wages wouldn't need to go up as much to meet the new day to day living expenses bought about by excessive/unnecessary spending. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 (edited) Our taxes are lower than usual compared with other Countries around us? Inflation is beyond our control. Govt spending, outlandish though it may be, has not led to massive tax increases for many years. In other words, min wage increases are simply trying to keep pace with inflation plus the more recent 'living wage' which any concerned Country should try to adhere to provide to it's citizens. With regard to Govts having to subsidise low wages........... I rather fancy that the majority of tax payers would begrudge having to subsidise low earnings but would equally begrudge paying a highr price to allow the wage increases to be effected, wage increases many of them would have had their selves!!! Inflation and cost increases exist, if we don't try to cover these disparities we will continue to be the two tier society that we are trying to get away from??? Or are we??? Edited September 3 by Kopek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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