Omobono Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 11 hours ago, Kopek said: If we could increase our population by 10,000 adults then the visiting relatives, 2 sets of parents, some grand parents and adult siblings, could raise the number by some 50k. These people are included in the visitor figures and while their spend may be less than a pure tourist, any contribution gratefully received? ( Economically active new residents hopefully)! so bring in another 10,000 where do they live ? where do you plan to find all the additional hospital beds , doctors .dentists , schools .old peoples homes and support services , traffic , all this crap about growing the population will create more problems than it will solve , yes more tourists , fill the hotels or whats left of them and the cafe's spend in the local community take their money give them a good time , and bid them a fond farewell , that how it used to work when we had an Island that isn't run down tired and falling to pieces and a decent quality of life for those of us who live here 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 The strategy for attracting 500,000 visitors seems to involve not even knowing what we currently have to offer them... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Non-Believer said: The strategy for attracting 500,000 visitors seems to involve not even knowing what we currently have to offer them... Well the strategy was devised by Allinson and Rob Callister. I can see this ending in tears and certainly not attracting the numbers they hope to get. If you paid the expensive ferry tickets, and had to stay in inadequate hotel accommodation, would you want to return? That’s not even taking into account, what attractions and things to do. The IOM is a niche tourist destination, no longer a 1970s seaside holiday resort, unfortunately a lot of our infrastructure is 1970s, and it shows. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steady Eddie Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 33 minutes ago, 2112 said: Well the strategy was devised by Allinson and Rob Callister. I can see this ending in tears and certainly not attracting the numbers they hope to get. If you paid the expensive ferry tickets, and had to stay in inadequate hotel accommodation, would you want to return? That’s not even taking into account, what attractions and things to do. The IOM is a niche tourist destination, no longer a 1970s seaside holiday resort, unfortunately a lot of our infrastructure is 1970s, and it shows. It’s just another extension of governments collective delusions. It’s all coming to an end anyway. We have no money left with which to pay idiots to devise crap. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Perhaps we could follow Scotland and just pay people shit loads of money to move here? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10852981/Scottish-government-handing-50k-golden-hellos-moving-one-remote-islands.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Bandits said: Perhaps we could follow Scotland and just pay people shit loads of money to move here? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10852981/Scottish-government-handing-50k-golden-hellos-moving-one-remote-islands.html That will probably happen eventually. Have you not seen the banners on the TT course, advertising locate.im to visiting bikers to live and work here. Paying people to relocate here is the sort of thing our politicos would do, whilst some sectors of society have to struggle with poverty, heating, energy and food shortages, along with an acute lack of money due to rising costs. Incidentally, if the UK provides help to consumers for rising energy costs, its galling as CM Cannan provides no help overall to consumers here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 CM Cannan, Allinson, Rob Callister and Ann Corlett really have high hopes for its locate.im wheeze, lots of money being spent and heavy promotion. Loads of pop up events during TT with MHKs getting involved promoting the island to entice those bikers to relocate here. Beer mats distributed to pubs and bars etc. The LG is being used according to the press release on Facebook. It’s a shame that everything on the island is run down and neglected, services gone to rack and ruin, and yet CM Cannan et al spend their time trying to entice more residents with promises (and who knows maybe subsidised relocating expenses?), whilst it’s current residents can only dream that their island will get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 It's shameless and out of touch from DFE and the visit isle of man agency. Growing the work force seems to be Robs master plan. No consideration for the lack of affordable housing, longest hospital waiting lists in history, historical levels of inflation and no plan to deal with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, cissolt said: It's shameless and out of touch from DFE and the visit isle of man agency. Growing the work force seems to be Robs master plan. No consideration for the lack of affordable housing, longest hospital waiting lists in history, historical levels of inflation and no plan to deal with it. Nor indeed the age profile of the TT visitors (in 2019 47% were over 50). Getting more pensioners with a propensity to fall off bikes and break their bones may not be the demographic masterstroke that Callister thinks it is. Getting more people to move to somewhere with a housing crisis and overheated job market, might not seem economically wise, but for DfE the important thing is to be seen to be doing something rather than actually doing anything useful. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 They'd be better off investing taxpayers money in green digital technology and offering tech grants to enterprises which chose to base themselves here Hopefully Dr Allinson will have a good, hard look at Ashford's Economic Plan before it goes to Tynwald in June or July Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said: They'd be better off investing taxpayers money in green digital technology and offering tech grants to enterprises which chose to base themselves here Hopefully Dr Allinson will have a good, hard look at Ashford's Economic Plan before it goes to Tynwald in June or July It is quite a left leaning treasury department now, not sure where Smith stands but the other 3 are supposedly left leaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 & as such it'll be most interesting to learn whether they continue to accept Ashford's declared intention to fund this administration with 'judicious use of reserves' right to the end of it's term 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steady Eddie Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, cissolt said: It's shameless and out of touch from DFE and the visit isle of man agency. That all you’re ever going to get though. We’ve made up this plan. We’re going to deliver it. Then 5 years later when nothing has happened. We make up another plan. We’re going to deliver this now. Ad infinitum. Some people there have been claiming to deliver ‘things’ for 20 years and delivered nothing. Because they couldn’t even deliver milk. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, 2112 said: CM Cannan, Allinson, Rob Callister and Ann Corlett really have high hopes for its locate.im wheeze, lots of money being spent and heavy promotion. Loads of pop up events during TT with MHKs getting involved promoting the island to entice those bikers to relocate here. Beer mats distributed to pubs and bars etc. The LG is being used according to the press release on Facebook. It’s a shame that everything on the island is run down and neglected, services gone to rack and ruin, and yet CM Cannan et al spend their time trying to entice more residents with promises (and who knows maybe subsidised relocating expenses?), whilst it’s current residents can only dream that their island will get better. Quite. "Come and live on our wonderful island where you have zero chance of getting a dentist and a 2 year wait if you need a surgical procedure. Oh and if you have kids then work from home some days as there's not enough teachers to keep the schools open" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steady Eddie Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, ellanvannin2010 said: not sure where Smith stands In the corner with a big hat with a “D” on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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