Derek Flint Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61097114 The proposals to send asylum seekers to Rwanda could cost up to £1.4bn Obvs that isn’t all going to go to the Rwandan Government, but it looks like a bit of an earner to me. Would it have been an opportunity for the Isle of Man to set something up and take a cheque from Whitehall? A darn sight more humane too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Derek Flint said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61097114 The proposals to send asylum seekers to Rwanda could cost up to £1.4bn Obvs that isn’t all going to go to the Rwandan Government, but it looks like a bit of an earner to me. Would it have been an opportunity for the Isle of Man to set something up and take a cheque from Whitehall? A darn sight more humane too. I doubt very much that the courts will allow this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: Would it have been an opportunity for the Isle of Man to set something up and take a cheque from Whitehall? A darn sight more humane too. No. The Isle of Man should have nothing at all to do with the UK's immigration policy. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josem Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) a) This idea doesn't make sense for the Isle of Man: I don't think this would be good for the people of the Isle of Man: serving as the detention centre for these Isles is hardly the exciting, dynamic and forward-looking industry that we need. With unemployment at 1.7%, we need better and higher-paying jobs, not just more jobs. b) This idea doesn't make sense for the United Kingdom: One of the purposes of this proposed policy is to try to deter migrants from paying criminal people smugglers to take them across the English Channel in dodgy boats. If the final destination is Rwanda, it is likely that fewer migrants will pay criminal people smugglers to take a risky journey. The Isle of Man is less of a deterrent than Rwanda is. In the long-run, the United Kingdom Government would like to deter people from taking dangerous and risky journeys with criminal people smugglers. Australia has faced this problem over the last twenty years, and the current annual recurring cost is relatively low because the journeys have been successfully deterred. The end goal of a policy like this is not to send lots of people to Rwanda (or Isle of Man as you suggest) but to not need to send people anywhere because they haven't taken dangerous trips in crappy boats in open seas. Edited April 14, 2022 by Josem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Josem said: Australia has faced this problem over the last twenty years, and the current annual recurring cost is relatively low because the journeys have been successfully deterred. 'successfully deterred' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Yeah, lets put thousand of poor people who haven't been charged or convicted of anything in a concentration camp for years and pretend it's a success!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eris Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Yeah, lets put thousand of poor people who haven't been charged or convicted of anything in a concentration camp for years and pretend it's a success!! The fact that the rubber boat people have broken into the UK makes them criminals from the get-go. If they were in fear of their lives they would have applied for asylum in the first safe country that they entered but they have not done so. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Eris said: The fact that the rubber boat people have broken into the UK makes them criminals from the get-go. If they were in fear of their lives they would have applied for asylum in the first safe country that they entered but they have not done so. My comment was about the Australian policy, described as 'successful' above by Josem. The UK situation is fucked up beyond repair, and anyone with a conscience would not see these people as criminals who need to be imprisoned, but as fellow humans who need some help. Edited April 14, 2022 by TheTeapot 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOR Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61097114 The proposals to send asylum seekers to Rwanda could cost up to £1.4bn Obvs that isn’t all going to go to the Rwandan Government, but it looks like a bit of an earner to me. Would it have been an opportunity for the Isle of Man to set something up and take a cheque from Whitehall? A darn sight more humane too. There's one of those boats shown in the link outside The Sefton Hotel with soil in it as a garden display. It's a kind of symbol. Put such economic migrants up in the Sefton Hotel and give The Sefton Hotel shareholders lots more taxpayers' £millions. Edited April 14, 2022 by AOR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 About the worst idea ever aired on this Forum, probably would not have been if you still lived on the Island. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eris Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: My comment was about the Australian policy, described as 'successful' above by Josem. The UK situation is fucked up beyond repair, and anyone with a conscience would not see these people as criminals who need to be imprisoned, but as fellow humans who need some help. But why should the UK taxpayers have to do anything to help them when these rubber boat people are illegal economic invaders who should be rooted out of the UK? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Eris said: But why should the UK taxpayers have to do anything to help them when these rubber boat people are illegal economic invaders who should be rooted out of the UK? Because helping is the right thing to do, rather than the UK taxpayer paying for them to be arrested and imprisoned in fucking Rwanda. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) It strikes me as a bit odd that these boats contain almost exclusively young males, have they really left their women and children behind? Edited April 14, 2022 by finlo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eris Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 minute ago, TheTeapot said: Because helping is the right thing to do, rather than the UK taxpayer paying for them to be arrested and imprisoned in fucking Rwanda. The right thing to do would be to return these criminals to France. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Knockaloe beckons.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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