Opportunity Missed?

[Boris Johnson]

Just now, TheTeapot said:

How on earth have you taken that from my posts?

So you agree that  Rwanda is a better place for asylum seekers?

For their own safety/ benefit?

And the threat of the Island as a destination would put more people off trying the channel crossing?

[manxman1980]

1 hour ago, Josem said:

I am open to other suggestions on why asylum seekers are fleeing France (or Belgium) on often-unseaworthy boats. There are probably multiple reasons - the relatively racist nature of big segments of the European Union, the search for a better life in the Anglo-world, and so on.

Much more likely as a result of English so often being peoples second language. Therefore moving to an English speaking country makes resettling much simpler than having to learn another language.

I deal with French people moving to the UK and they think the UK's benefit and health care system is crap.

They also feel that the UK is racist and unwelcoming which has also been reflected in comments from Polish nationals as well.

Even Ukrainians are discovering how racist the current UK Government is.

[Derek Flint]

5 hours ago, Two-lane said:

What is the GDP per capita of the IoM compared to the UK?

The UK can print money, IOM can’t 

[TheTeapot]

21 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said:

So you agree that  Rwanda is a better place for asylum seekers?

For their own safety/ benefit?

And the threat of the Island as a destination would put more people off trying the channel crossing?

I don't think I agree with anything you say.

[hissingsid]

If the threat of ending up in Rwanda deters the channel crossing people then the policy has worked, nothing else has.

 

[Josem]

23 minutes ago, manxman1980 said:

I deal with French people moving to the UK and they think the UK's benefit and health care system is crap.

Yes, I think the rest of the world would be appalled to learn about the standard of health care compared to other nations. Doctors and nurses are paid poorly, patients suffer long waiting periods to even see a GP!

23 minutes ago, manxman1980 said:

They also feel that the UK is racist and unwelcoming which has also been reflected in comments from Polish nationals as well.

Even Ukrainians are discovering how racist the current UK Government is.

On literally every metric, the UK is far more welcoming of migrants than most of Europe. People in the UK have much lower rates of concern of their child marrying someone from another ethnic background, lower levels of concern about having a neighbour from a different ethnic background, and lower levels of concern about having a manager from a different ethnic background. The people of the UK also have generally higher levels of support for migration, and more widespread support for the belief that migrants benefit the receiving nation.

Just look at the public face of Governments: Is there any senior Government leader from a non-native ethnic background in any nation in the EU-27? Let alone from the conservative side of politics? The UK is far more welcoming of migrants than elsewhere in Europe, that's likely a big reason that there is such a strong history of demand from migrants to move to the UK since WW2.

[Eris]

56 minutes ago, quilp said:

Whatever...

Lives have been lost attempting the crossing, that is a fact. 

Very very few.

[Eris]

9 minutes ago, Josem said:

Yes, I think the rest of the world would be appalled to learn about the standard of health care compared to other nations. Doctors and nurses are paid poorly, patients suffer long waiting periods to even see a GP!

On literally every metric, the UK is far more welcoming of migrants than most of Europe. People in the UK have much lower rates of concern of their child marrying someone from another ethnic background, lower levels of concern about having a neighbour from a different ethnic background, and lower levels of concern about having a manager from a different ethnic background. The people of the UK also have generally higher levels of support for migration, and more widespread support for the belief that migrants benefit the receiving nation.

Just look at the public face of Governments: Is there any senior Government leader from a non-native ethnic background in any nation in the EU-27? Let alone from the conservative side of politics? The UK is far more welcoming of migrants than elsewhere in Europe, that's likely a big reason that there is such a strong history of demand from migrants to move to the UK since WW2.

Benefits.  Free everything except it's not really free.  The costs are being picked up by the UK taxpayers.  

[quilp]

3 minutes ago, Eris said:

Very very few.

You're nit-picking, hair-splitting. The numbers vary. And really, "very very few" is still a few too many.

Are they acceptable as some sort of collateral damage, in your world view? 

[TheTeapot]

2 minutes ago, quilp said:

You're nit-picking, hair-splitting. The numbers vary. And really, "very very few" is still a few too many.

Are they acceptable as some sort of collateral damage, in your world view? 

Of course they're acceptable, they're criminals. Let them drown, and then, if they don't drown imprison their worthless brown asses for years with no trial.

[Eris]

9 minutes ago, quilp said:

You're nit-picking, hair-splitting. The numbers vary. And really, "very very few" is still a few too many.

Are they acceptable as some sort of collateral damage, in your world view? 

Yes.  Their choice.

[SleepyJoe]

53 minutes ago, Derek Flint said:

The UK can print money, IOM can’t 

But we do appear to be issuing digital money under licence - or somebody is on our behalf

Interesting times!

[quilp]

9 minutes ago, Eris said:

Yes.  Their choice.

Is there a smidgen of humanity in you? 

[Eris]

Just now, quilp said:

Is there a smidgen of humanity in you? 

Not a lot where these criminals are concerned.

[Gladys]

The criminals are those charging many thousands to vulnerable people wanting to improve their lot or escape unimaginable horror to be packed onto inflatables and risk drowning, or packed into containers to die of suffocation.