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Bus Vannin in Crisis


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1 hour ago, The Old Git said:

Do our buses have a PA system so tour guides can point out our funny looking sheep and cats?

There's a tale about a PA commentator on a visitors tour bus, from many years ago... 😄

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1 hour ago, 0bserver said:

They left years ago. As soon as they got a whiff of fame they fucked off to Manchester.

Despite the brothers were born in the Isle of Man, they still had ‘Mancunian citizenship’, as their parents were from Manchester, which made Manchester the Bee Gees’ actual hometown, instead of Douglas, and also for the fact that they grew up in Manchester. They only became Manx when it suited them...

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12 minutes ago, Passing Time said:

Despite the brothers were born in the Isle of Man, they still had ‘Mancunian citizenship’, as their parents were from Manchester, which made Manchester the Bee Gees’ actual hometown, instead of Douglas, and also for the fact that they grew up in Manchester. They only became Manx when it suited them...

Did it ever suit them or did it suit the IOM more to ride their coat tails? 

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8 hours ago, Nellie said:

I have cruised a lot, and shore excursions are usually organised by the cruise line's local shipping agent, or a local travel agent. They will hire in the number of vehicles/seats that they need, based on ticket sales, and they can work with whoever they want to. Not 100% sure that is how it works here, but it would be unusual for anything else to happen.

We're also assuming that Tours feel hard done by, or want more of this work, but the reality may well be that buying/leasing several more coaches, hiring more drivers, and finding somewhere to keep them, for an occasional day's work, simply isn't viable, or doesn't fit their business model. 

I'm not defending some of the dubious, and sharp, practices which BV have indulged in, on Longworth's watch, but the whole situation is probably a bit more complex than it first appears.

The question is, should BV be touting for this business at all, using public assets which otherwise should be used for the benefit of the taxpayer?

If BV have 'spare' buses lying around and not being used for the purpose for which they were purchased in the first place then the taxpayer has, yet again, been shagged. 

All we need now is for DOI to buy a feckin' cruise ship to complete the circle.

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7 hours ago, 0bserver said:

I'm almost certain of the decline being due to Bus Vannin tactics during the Longworth-era. I'm not even sure the work was being put out to tender by DfE, and as has been covered here several times over BV don't account for vehicle depreciation or a whole host of other costs. 

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3 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

The question is, should BV be touting for this business at all, using public assets which otherwise should be used for the benefit of the taxpayer?

If BV have 'spare' buses lying around and not being used for the purpose for which they were purchased in the first place then the taxpayer has, yet again, been shagged. 

All we need now is for DOI to buy a feckin' cruise ship to complete the circle.

Please be quite, you never know who is reading this site.

 

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45 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

The question is, should BV be touting for this business at all, using public assets which otherwise should be used for the benefit of the taxpayer?

If BV have 'spare' buses lying around and not being used for the purpose for which they were purchased in the first place then the taxpayer has, yet again, been shagged. 

All we need now is for DOI to buy a feckin' cruise ship to complete the circle.

It's possible there will be spare buses at certain times - the school ones outside term-time for example. But I  think they could, perhaps be used to provide a service to the Sound, Jurby, Foxdale, between the South and West etc.

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8 hours ago, Newsdesk said:

This whole situation is just typical of the usual IOM Government tactics of meddling in things that they shouldn’t be meddling in. We must be one of the few countries in the world where affluent Cruiseliner passengers are driven round the countryside in  basic service buses. Most other places you get a nice luxury coach so you can sit higher up and see the scenery properly. But as usual the IOM likes to give the impression that it’s a socialist state where everyone is treated like they’re a common government worker.

But as a poster has already said above. No private business in its right mind would invest into its fleet to scale up to accommodate tourist transfers from cruise boats while a government agency is sat in the background with multi millions of pounds worth of vehicles sitting idle in carparks all around the IOM who is prepared to do the work for nothing just so it can pretend that it’s being “commercial”. The whole thing is insane. Add to that the way they have destroyed the horse tram system by basically being incompetent despite paying for advice from skilled engineers which they then ignored you have to wonder why nobody has pulled any of these people in over the last 10 years and given them the boot. 

If I came off a cruse ship for a shore trip and was met with BVs finest new Merc buses I would be quite pissed off to the extent that I would not stay on one of the bus "tours" due to a basic lack of safety.

AS IN NO FUCK1NG SAFETY BELTS. 

God help the islands self insurance if we kill a lot of litigious Yanks on one of these trips.

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43 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said:

If I came off a cruse ship for a shore trip and was met with BVs finest new Merc buses I would be quite pissed off to the extent that I would not stay on one of the bus "tours" due to a basic lack of safety.

AS IN NO FUCK1NG SAFETY BELTS. 

God help the islands self insurance if we kill a lot of litigious Yanks on one of these trips.

Like we almost did on Snaefell?

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2 hours ago, Boris Johnson said:

If I came off a cruse ship for a shore trip and was met with BVs finest new Merc buses I would be quite pissed off to the extent that I would not stay on one of the bus "tours" due to a basic lack of safety.

AS IN NO FUCK1NG SAFETY BELTS. 

God help the islands self insurance if we kill a lot of litigious Yanks on one of these trips.

It’s not compulsory to wear them on a coach…

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