WTF Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 58 minutes ago, finlo said: They used to have this old jalopy I also remember a yellow more modern one? then there was a proper elevated decked truck probably all sidelined in the name of "savings"! was one of these converted into that disco bus thing or was it a separate build project ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, WTF said: was one of these converted into that disco bus thing or was it a separate build project ? I don't think so I would think it is far too modern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 It's all very well moaning about the private hire buses, we've drawn the cruise business in, we can't refuse to service it??? Can any other local coach company provide the service now? Do Tours have the fleet? OK, it was manipulated by BV but the Govt should indicate to Tours that they can have the business next year and help them build up the fleet to do so. In the meantime we're stuck with BV !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Kopek said: It's all very well moaning about the private hire buses, we've drawn the cruise business in, we can't refuse to service it??? Can any other local coach company provide the service now? Do Tours have the fleet? OK, it was manipulated by BV but the Govt should indicate to Tours that they can have the business next year and help them build up the fleet to do so. In the meantime we're stuck with BV !!! Tours have a surprisingly large fleet actually. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavey Davey Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, finlo said: They used to have this old jalopy I also remember a yellow more modern one? then there was a proper elevated decked truck probably all sidelined in the name of "savings"! 14 hours ago, finlo said: Malta bought ours on the cheap and cut the roofs off. Yet again it’s the case of it works everywhere else in the world except here. Edited July 31, 2022 by Wavey Davey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriT Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 3 hours ago, finlo said: They used to have this old jalopy I also remember a yellow more modern one? then there was a proper elevated decked truck probably all sidelined in the name of "savings"! What is that? A 1950s AEC Regent? Still working in the 1980s looking at the Fiesta driving past. That’s how our whole public sector used to work before it all got about management job creation and image. You bought something and you repaired it over its working life. If it still had legs after that time you spent a few quid repurposing it for something else. Now we give our money to Mercedes’ on a 5 year churn. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, BriT said: What is that? A 1950s AEC Regent? Still working in the 1980s looking at the Fiesta driving past. That’s how our whole public sector used to work before it all got about management job creation and image. You bought something and you repaired it over its working life. If it still had legs after that time you spent a few quid repurposing it for something else. Now we give our money to Mercedes’ on a 5 year churn. Leyland Titan PD3/4. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriT Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, finlo said: Leyland Titan PD3/4. Ok, thanks, similar age though so all the above still applies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 34 minutes ago, BriT said: Now we give our money to Mercedes’ on a 5 year churn. 5 is generous..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 46 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: 5 is generous..... Those Shitaros rust and corrode after 3 years in our salt air environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, 0bserver said: Those Shitaros rust and corrode after 3 years in our salt air environment. A bit like their "premium quality" cars then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Aren't they aluminium coachwork??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 44 minutes ago, finlo said: Tours have a surprisingly large fleet actually. The problem isn't vehicles though but drivers. A commercial company like Tours will have a small core of drivers (including management etc) but for outside their regular contract work they will rely on casual drivers to come in and work when required. Normally this model works well because there are always some qualified people who are happy to do this this, being semi-retired or having other employment they can switch about. But the problem is that Bus Vannin has tried to move to a variant of this model as well, but rather than accepting that they need the vast majority of their drivers as full-time employees to service their regular work, they have tried to move to using drivers on zero-hours to do such work as well. So it means they are 'fishing in the same pool' as Tours and there simply aren't enough people to do the work. So even if Tours were given the cruise work etc, at the moment they would be unable to find the people - or if they did Bus Vannin would end up with exactly the same problem that they do at the moment with not enough drivers to service even their already cut-back timetable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 .....but if they were assured of the cruise business they could offer more hours to their pool of drivers? May be that they would take drivers away from BV. but the market would even out in time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manx Bean Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 And now Minister Monotone wants to get to the truth about TT bus cancellations.. Finding the truth in DOI? Good luck with that! It would be on par with finding the Lost Ark, and Indiana Jones he is not. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/tt-bus-cancellations-minister-pledges-to-find-true-figures/ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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