Fysseree Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Bandits said: That said it is declared on the register so why was his link not published in the original one about MHKs businesses? Politicians lie. Data doesn't. We don't have any quality data-driven journalists who check the data they're given on an FOI. Edited May 6, 2022 by Fysseree 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 Just now, Fysseree said: Politicians lie. Data doesn't. I just remember that original announcement being totally unfair. They named Michelle Hayward and Clare Christian who weren't even MHKs at the time the first grants were paid out and they wrongly named Julie Edge as a recipient. But it seems they “forgot” about naming a link to the man who was actually at Treasury who approved the loans and who was the health minister who shut the bloody economy down in the first place requiring everyone to need to survive on grants. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Bandits said: The register is here https://www.tynwald.org.im/memoff/interest/Lists/Interests/AllItems.aspx But sorry yes just read the Manx Radio story here: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/ashford-not-an-interested-party-in-company-that-received-covid-support/ If you’re paid a salary then yes I’d expect it to be declared too. He has actually had his interest in Walkabout removed from the register in 2018 though. How can you not have an interest in a company (Gradely) if it’s actually paying you? That said it is declared on the register so why was his link not published in the original one about MHKs businesses? He has shares in Lloyd's, but isn’t a shareholder, apparently. More intriguingly, he is an employee of Gradely (if I picked that up correctly) and receives a fixed amount. So what does he do to receive a salary? Will listen again, because it isn't clear. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gladys said: He has shares in Lloyd's, but isn’t a shareholder, apparently. More intriguingly, he is an employee of Gradely (if I picked that up correctly) and receives a fixed amount. So what does he do to receive a salary? Will listen again, because it isn't clear. He declared 334 shares which closed today at 44p so that’s less than 150 quids worth of shares. That’s a fair question though what does the Treasury Minister do for Gradely to justify a salary? And more importantly why would grants made to Gradely not be linked to him as he has actually declared the interest on the members register. Sounds to me like the original leak was political and they ‘forgot’ that the same rules applied to Ashford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, Gladys said: He has shares in Lloyd's, but isn’t a shareholder, apparently. More intriguingly, he is an employee of Gradely (if I picked that up correctly) and receives a fixed amount. So what does he do to receive a salary? Will listen again, because it isn't clear. That's the million dollar question. And where has the sound bite come from? Surely a pub quiz master isn't salaried? That's assuming that only one of Gradley or walkabout are trading as the outback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Bandits said: He declared 334 shares which closed today at 44p so that’s less than 150 quids worth of shares. That’s a fair question though what does the Treasury Minister do for Gradely to justify a salary? And more importantly why would grants made to Gradely not be linked to him as he has actually declared the interest on the members register. Sounds to me like the original leak was political and they ‘forgot’ that the same rules applied to Ashford. The amount of Lloyd's shares is irrelevant, he said he holds shares but isn't a shareholder. He also waffled about related party, which didn't inspire confidence that he actually understood what it meant. He is in charge of the money, FFS. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Gladys said: He is in charge of the money, FFS. Indeed he makes Eddie Teare look like Elon Musk. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bandits said: Indeed he makes Eddie Teare look like Elon Musk. Or Warren Buffet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gladys said: Or Warren Buffet? Looks like he’s eaten the buffet 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fysseree Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Passing Time said: Looks like he’s eaten the buffet It's alright. He's vomiting it all over the Manx Radio comments section on Facebook as we speak. Edited May 6, 2022 by Fysseree 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Just now, Fysseree said: It's alright. He's vomiting it all over the Manx Radio comments section as we speak. Have you got a link to that please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Gladys said: Or Warren Buffet? He’s probably paid to run the Warren Buffett at the Outback. Only £10.50 for Sunday lunch. All you can eat. Free fuel vouchers for the over 60s. Edited May 6, 2022 by Bandits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fysseree Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 https://www.facebook.com/ManxRadio/posts/5724732114221335 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 29 minutes ago, Fysseree said: https://www.facebook.com/ManxRadio/posts/5724732114221335 Some banging exchanges there with Ashford. He does rather seem to ignore the fact that every other MHK who even got a sniff of cash was named except him - the MHK who is actually sitting over the whole grant scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Fysseree said: The total across all schemes for just Pepsi Max Bowl is £138,415.51. How the feck do they justify that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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