Ashford: Should he stay or should he go?

[quilp]

5 hours ago, The Voice of Reason said:

My reason remains firmly in the room.

A room with the door locked and the windows barred. 

[cissolt]

https://gef.im/2021/04/01/dr-glover-i-thought-they-were-just-exploiting-me/

As we are taking a trip down memory lane.  During the PAC hearing, Mr Ashford claimed that he has written 'codes' in a previous job and believed it was possible that the dhss staff member could have copied the code by looking over Dr Glovers shoulder. 

The letter from the AG claiming that the allegedly stolen code was in fact written in house.  Quite a strong position for the AG to take.

[TheTeapot]

5 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

 

Ashford had a very impressive-looking result in 2021, but he was flattered by having probably the weakest opposition of any constituency.

Hi. I live in Castletown.

[Whatnonsence]

7 hours ago, Non-Believer said:

There is a section of IoM society for whom Govt could never do any wrong and there are a number of characteristics.

Largely, it's older generation, perhaps those who have never lived anywhere else for extended time and to whom the Island is their whole world and who simply don't know any different. The ones who take everything Govt says as gospel and bend their knees to elected and public officials. Who tug their forelocks and promise their votes on the doorstep. These are the ones our elected pander too, getting dogshit cleaned up and squeaky gate hinges oiled are miraculous acts to this part of the electorate.

However, they are also possessed of an innate fear of the Govt. The fear that to speak out or badly will see one's job or career threatened or invite a knock at the door on a dark night and never to be seen again. FWIW my own parents were of this ilk.

These people still exist although they are of a dying breed. A more worldly Outlook and the Internet and social media are breeding a more informed generation.

Of course some in Govt much prefer this older generation because they are finding it difficult to cope with the New World. 

We have a huge public sector employment on the Isle of Man who depend on a government pay slip as do their nearest and dearest. Any of those in that employment chain do feel threatened if they fall fowl of their government bosses.

Given what we have found out we can be assured this problem has not gone away 

 

[Roger Mexico]

1 hour ago, TheTeapot said:

Hi. I live in Castletown.

I see your Graham Cregeen and raise you Kevin Oliphant-Smith.

[The Old Git]

8 hours ago, AOR said:

Chris Thomas said on the radio David Ashford has done some incredible things in his political career.

 

[The Voice of Reason]

4 hours ago, Newsdesk said:

It’s worse than that with Ashy though. There’s still a load of mad old bats out there who think that he literally saved their lives during lockdown 

Well it’s not that improbable. 

Do you recall those few months of media interest where the Isle of Man was the only place in the British Isles not to have any Covid deaths?

Obviously not down to DA on his own but a collective effort from the previous administration.

I am not a mad old bat but may be described as one of the “ vulnerable” members of society, as evidenced by being prioritized for vaccination.

Truth told we won’t know but I think that some here have incredibly short memories.

[cissolt]

1 minute ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Well it’s not that improbable. 

Do you recall those few months of media interest where the Isle of Man was the only place in the British Isles not to have any Covid deaths?

Obviously not down to DA on his own but a collective effort from the previous administration.

I am not a mad old bat but may be described as one of the “ vulnerable” members of society, as evidenced by being prioritized for vaccination.

Truth told we won’t know but I think that some here have incredibly short memories.

Let's not get carried away, we followed a failed UK policy whilst bullying our medical director and ignoring the advice of our medics.

We sure made up the numbers pretty quickly: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-55178508

[Passing Time]

44 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

I see your Graham Cregeen and raise you Kevin Oliphant-Smith.

I see your KOS and raise you Rob Callister.

[quilp]

11 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Do you recall those few months of media interest where the Isle of Man was the only place in the British Isles not to have any Covid deaths?

That's very much irrelevant, really. Deaths were just delayed in the process.

11 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Obviously not down to DA on his own but a collective effort from the previous administration.

All that happened because of public compliance. 'We', the GMP made a relative success out of it. You're insinuating that Walter and significant others saved the day whereas in actuality, all they did was instigate what PHE were recommending, and even then the administration dragged their heels over locking-down.

11 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Truth told we won’t know but I think that some here have incredibly short memories.

Well, it's all coming out in the wash, but obviously yours is the shorter memory, seems like you've conveniently forgotten the verdict of the tribunal already.

Defending the indefensible... 

[Non-Believer]

4 minutes ago, Passing Time said:

I see your KOS and raise you Rob Callister.

I see your Rob Callister and raise you Zac Hall.

[Passing Time]

Just now, Non-Believer said:

I see your Rob Callister and raise you Zac Hall.

I fold

[Augustus]

2 hours ago, Whatnonsence said:

We have a huge public sector employment on the Isle of Man who depend on a government pay slip as do their nearest and dearest. Any of those in that employment chain do feel threatened if they fall fowl of their government bosses.

Given what we have found out we can be assured this problem has not gone away 

 

Bunch of chickens.

[The Voice of Reason]

1 hour ago, quilp said:

That's very much irrelevant, really. Deaths were just delayed in the process.

Even if that were true and no actual deaths were avoided I would be happy for my own to be delayed.

Wouldn't be irrelevant to me.

[b4mbi]

2 hours ago, Passing Time said:

I fold

I see your Zac Hall and raise David Fowler.