Banker Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Just now, Andy Onchan said: Or take up a directorship... Isn't that what one does at the appropriate juncture? Companies are a lot choosier now & actually want someone who can add value, unlike the public sector!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 I recall suggesting a few days ago that Greenhow would be a prominent casualty of the Ranson affair. The fact that he leaves such a key role immediately, makes it pretty clear that he's been pushed. Presumably, he'd have been Magson's 'line manager' and the way she has been portrayed in the Ranson Report implicates him, in a way that was always going to make his position untenable. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Nellie said: I recall suggesting a few days ago that Greenhow would be a prominent casualty of the Ranson affair. The fact that he leaves such a key role immediately, makes it pretty clear that he's been pushed. Presumably, he'd have been Magson's 'line manager' and the way she has been portrayed in the Ranson Report implicates him, in a way that was always going to make his position untenable. He does feature somewhat in the tribunal, and is line manager for Henrietta? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Nellie said: I recall suggesting a few days ago that Greenhow would be a prominent casualty of the Ranson affair. The fact that he leaves such a key role immediately, makes it pretty clear that he's been pushed. Presumably, he'd have been Magson's 'line manager' and the way she has been portrayed in the Ranson Report implicates him, in a way that was always going to make his position untenable. Perhaps he’s being sacrificed to save Ashford, doing a Boris! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: Or take up a directorship... Isn't that what one does at the appropriate juncture? Give it a week or so and he'll pop up as a government consultant - It's the Manx way... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoops Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Sorry, allowing him to take retirement IF he was going to get the push, does not placate me in the slightest. We need to see people held properly to account. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) At what point does the Governor tell HMG that we are not fit to govern ourselves? Must be getting close? ETA. Imagine a similar situation in the UK with the head of the CS "retiring" after "that" or similar tribunal Imagine the witch hunt the UK press would do including the TV news to chase Ashford or his UK equivalent out of office. Why is is any different here? People have done really shitty things (or not done things - ACTS OR OMISSIONS is the legal speak) that have 100% cost lives, they need emptying. If I had a close relative that had died in the first wave, I would be looking for a meeting with at least one MHK, one on one with no minutes taken like they favour. Grantham would do as a place to have the meeting................ Edited May 16, 2022 by Boris Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Two-lane said: Surely a retirement announcement is treated in the same way as a resignation - there is a notice period to be worked. Even Reynolds worked the notice period. 'worked' must mean something else to you then. i wonder if this is a ruse to try and deflect and take responsibility to try and protect ashie Edited May 16, 2022 by WTF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: At what point does the Governor tell HMG that we are not fit to govern ourselves? ...... considering who he has to tell it makes quite an irony of the situation really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, WTF said: considering who he has to tell it makes quite an irony of the situation really Fair point but do you really think our lot are better? You may not like the UK but at least there is a modicum of intelligence in their shenanigans, not just a "Manx Muddle" which is the usual excuse given for total and utter incompetence and corruption* of the highest level. *Not financial for the short of brains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Ten Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Derek Flint said: In other news it appears that the DHA have failed to appoint a successor to Gary Roberts. Doubtless he will humbly stay on. Having spoken to a number of former colleagues this weekend all is not well in that organisation either. Same Department (DHA) and the Fire Service have appointed an Interim Chief for 6 months - Mr Davis said 'Recruiting an interim chief fire officer to lead the Isle of Man Fire and Rescue Service is an opportunity to provide ‘breathing space’. (whats that all about then Derek)?. The lad who has been promoted is local, his Dad was a Chief Fire Office and his uncle was also a Chief Fire Officer (keep it in the family Lol). After 6 months I believe they will open it up to a wider audience. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/chief-fire-officer-decision-will-provide-breathing-space/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Banker said: If he takes pension now he will suffer an actuarial reduction for every year before 65, he can’t take it out as IOMG stopped that a few years ago so unless he wants to take a big g hit he’ll have to live on savings or drive a bus for a few years!! But you're forgetting 'the package'. Special arrangements can always be made for the right people. But his departure at this stage does puzzle me. The whole thing had his fingers all over it, but there wasn't much proof and others are more in the firing line. Maybe it provides a good excuse to do nothing else (can't reform the civil service when there's no one at the top) or maybe Cannan just wants to replace him with his own candidate and is using it as an excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Last Ten said: Same Department (DHA) and the Fire Service have appointed an Interim Chief for 6 months - Mr Davis said 'Recruiting an interim chief fire officer to lead the Isle of Man Fire and Rescue Service is an opportunity to provide ‘breathing space’. (whats that all about then Derek)?. The lad who has been promoted is local, his Dad was a Chief Fire Office and his uncle was also a Chief Fire Officer (keep it in the family Lol). After 6 months I believe they will open it up to a wider audience. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/chief-fire-officer-decision-will-provide-breathing-space/ I know a couple of EX firemen and they told me 7-8 years ago that the promotion system in IOMFRS had morphed into just like every other gov dep't - The longer served the higher you get. I have no idea about this latest appointment, might be the saviour of the IOMFRS all I can do is say what I was told a good few years ago............................. Edited May 16, 2022 by Boris Johnson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: Fair point but do you really think our lot are better? NO, but swapping shit for shit still leaves you with shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Banker said: At least he has resigned unlike Ashford!! Must be unexpected as Caldric CEO of treasury is in charge on an interim basis not Lewin Agree you’d expect Lewin to have got it as he was clearly being groomed for the role so they must really have spent the last week prizing his fingers off the the edge of the doorframe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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