Kopek Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Will there have been a settlement? Do you know for sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, Kopek said: Has Magson been taken back by her English NHS position??? Are they looking at this? I’m sure that the BMA will make sure that they are! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Two-lane said: Far from it for me to be cynical, but there is the possibility that her leaving present was so large that her future personal interests are limited to doing bugger all on a beach. We don't really know, but I wonder if the "Throw money at them till they go away mindset might have changed". I suspect the difference here is the presence of Poole-Wilson who actually does know what employment law says and the new CoMin, who have less to worry about in terms of what skeletons of previous actions might emerge. And no Greenhow to 'guide' them. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 34 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Heh, quality judgement Mr Hooper, and strong support. A LibVan love-in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Gladys said: The opportunity is possibly Hobson's choice to do some gardening. Maybe gardening that involves a wheelbarrow full of cash from her pay-off? Actually, as others have intimated, the haste and the wording of some of these letters suggest pay-off may be minimal, say, 3 months pay in lieu of notice etc. It would be good for public confidence if Alf would confirm that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavey Davey Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 24 minutes ago, Hmmmm said: In a statement Ms Malone said: "While I have enjoyed working in the public sector for more than 20 years an opportunity has presented itself which will enable me to pursue personal interests. Cash in the Attic or Homes Under the Hammer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Nellie said: Actually, as others have intimated, the haste and the wording of some of these letters suggest pay-off may be minimal, say, 3 months pay in lieu of notice etc. It would be good for public confidence if Alf would confirm that. There will be non-disclosure agreements. Sometimes these are designed to protect the employer from embarrassment about just how large they are, but sometimes it's the employee who wants to disguise how small they are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Roger M is right, there seems to have been some legal position to these resignations, maybe such as to rule out future constructive dismissal claim? This will probably only apply to the upper echelons, those further down the chain may have to be dealt with in a less public manner with, perhaps, more cash being pushed their way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Do we have a right to know who these lower miscreants are? They may be our friends, neighbours, acquaintances, we may sympathise with them? If they've done wrong, they should be exposed? Probably but if they are your neighbour, what are going to say over the garden fence? 'You got what you deserve' or 'I'm sorry to hear you lost your job'? We can rejoice in the upper echelons going but there are probably many others who need to be dumped. We need to be hard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavey Davey Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: There will be non-disclosure agreements. Sometimes these are designed to protect the employer from embarrassment about just how large they are, but sometimes it's the employee who wants to disguise how small they are. If you resign it’s generally a relatively small payment. The reality of staying on has been fully explained to you and you have weighted up the situation and perhaps you have signed a letter already given to you by your employer. Or perhaps you have written your own letter. Either way it’s been explained to you that you’re screwed so take this olive branch to go nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 38 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: Private sector doesn't always mean better and generally means more expense in the long run. Just look at anything privatised in the UK. OHR just need to... recruit better. It doesn't always mean better but in this case it will likely be better than what we have/had. It would also smash the inbred cycle of poorly advised internal promotions and recruitment from within. The biggest key will be any new senior contracts need to be time limited. No more than 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kopek said: Do we have a right to know who these lower miscreants are? They may be our friends, neighbours, acquaintances, we may sympathise with them? If they've done wrong, they should be exposed? Probably but if they are your neighbour, what are going to say over the garden fence? 'You got what you deserve' or 'I'm sorry to hear you lost your job'? We can rejoice in the upper echelons going but there are probably many others who need to be dumped. We need to be hard? Their time will come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) ,,,,,,, but we'll feel more sorry for them? ( which shouldn't be? ). Edited May 24, 2022 by Kopek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 47 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: There will be non-disclosure agreements. Sometimes these are designed to protect the employer from embarrassment about just how large they are, but sometimes it's the employee who wants to disguise how small they are. Normally if resigning you just get paid notice period, for some senior positions that could be 6 months plus payment for any holidays due. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Banker said: Normally if resigning you just get paid notice period, for some senior positions that could be 6 months plus payment for any holidays due. Normally, if you resign, you work your notice period. After all the job needs to be done and a replacement found. Although with some positions, your employer may prefer to put you on garden leave. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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