Ghost Ship Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, english zloty said: I know for a fact the terms of some of the NDA. @Stu Peters look up Mutually Assured Resignation as that's probably how it's been done. Nothing to do with retirement lump sums. Resign today and get £X or fight us in Court and potentially lose everything. On behalf of the public you could ask how many and how much has been or will be paid out In the past six months. I think that passes the FOI test? Out of interest (and slightly off-topic perhaps) I think you suggested in the thread about whistleblowing that another fairly senior civil servant (and their solicitor spouse?) had previously won at least one other employment tribunal - presumably against their former UK employer - and had won at least one "pay off" of some kind. Have you any more substantial information on that? (It's an area I have a particular interest in because of the nature of my former employment) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, 0bserver said: Which one is that? See: https://gef.im/2021/09/14/civil-servant-sanctioned-sea-pollution/ and: https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/scientist-seeks-help-with-costs-of-environment-case-against-government-514134 and indeed: 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Roger knows, and anyone who has been paying attention knows, that Dick Lole is not going to come out of the kennington case looking very good. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Roger knows, and anyone who has been paying attention knows, that Dick Lole is not going to come out of the kennington case looking very good. You are left with the impression that the primary focus here is liability management around tribunals and legal cases. So ultimately a conversation is had on the basis of ‘This is going to look bad on you and your position. It may end up a misconduct matter. So which letter do you want to sign - the resignation one or the retirement one?’ A bit like Alice’s blue pill or red pill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Newsdesk said: Hopefully some of Daffy’s bonkers and ill thought out plans to burn money on a failed climate change strategy are being curtailed too. Good. The actions are in departmental plans - highly likely it won't all be spent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Newsdesk said: Hopefully a case of Alf finally waking up to the fact that in certain sectors we have a public sector that is out of control and which totally embarrasses its political masters and which has got worse the more untouchable the people within it have thought they have got. The only way a balanced govt budget is to be attained is by removing high cost personnel in departments, it would appear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said: The only way a balanced govt budget is to be attained is by removing high cost personnel in departments, it would appear Also the only way many taxpayers will retain balance of their finances and sanities too. With any luck there'll be a review of some more of these "environmental/ecological" posts in DEFA too, I'm convinced that they're just job creation for certain sectors of society on the Island. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Happier diner said: There may be other inducements to 'go quietly'. I think they are known as non disclosure agreements. Such inducements might be, e.g an extra year on pension. Paid notice periods, gardening leave, whatever. Its not unique to IOM Gov. It happens the world over, public and private industries and services. It's actually happened to me once upon a time. "We want you to leave, but know that realistically we don't have much of a leg to stand on, would have to go through due process and could end up in court for unfair dismissal etc. So if you just resign now and sign this saying you won't go to Employment Tribunal, then here is a cheque for 6 months pay. Now empty your desk and goodbye." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Non-Believer said: Also the only way many taxpayers will retain balance of their finances and sanities too. With any luck there'll be a review of some more of these "environmental/ecological" posts in DEFA too, I'm convinced that they're just job creation for certain sectors of society on the Island. There's a huge job to be done in shifting IOM agriculture away from cattle ranching & into forestry + sustainable food production 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAsHell Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, SleepyJoe said: There's a huge job to be done in shifting IOM agriculture away from cattle ranching & into forestry + sustainable food production Remove the grants and see how fast the island rewilds. Or change the calculation of them, base it on acreage of traditional Manx woodland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 4 hours ago, SleepyJoe said: The only way a balanced govt budget is to be attained is by removing high cost personnel in departments, it would appear It would appear they are removing themselves via retirement or resignation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, MadAsHell said: Remove the grants and see how fast the island rewilds. Or change the calculation of them, base it on acreage of traditional Manx woodland. Well this is the thing - further education grants were removed in order that farmers could be paid to do cattle ranching Government took a share in the 'national herd' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver2020 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 M U A could do with a clear out as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpunkCookie Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 14 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: Black went under the 'old' regime though, when Greenhow was still running things and the new CoMin had barely started (had Crookall made his departure a condition of taking the job?). There were hints in the latest departures that such generosity was no longer automatic. Though Longworth would have been entitled to retire anyway. Apparently Longworth has gone now but doesn’t retire until September. So he’s either being placed in gardening leave or has quite a bit of flexi stored up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 40 minutes ago, Driver2020 said: M U A could do with a clear out as well. Like who & why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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