AOR Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 7 hours ago, Annoymouse said: I hate the fact that the sun is used as excuse for accidents, so all the times he’s driven previously and the sun wasn’t an issue, then on this one particular day it’s suddenly an issue? “I didn’t see that pedestrian/cyclist/motorcyclist/stationary object due to the sun” Well how about you just drive to the conditions and accept some responsibility, exactly as you’d expect others to do. That sun eh! I accept accidents can happen but what the fuck is wrong with people not slowing down when they can't see the road and who is on it in front of them. The Isle of Man is a fucking dangerous place to be on the road. I don't think the sentencing is going to help. Some examples. 1. Cyclist is lucky to be alive 120 hour community service, 12 month ban. Note defective windscreen washer, which driver became aware of before the crash. So no fucking excuse at all. 2. Van driver was 'blinded by the sun' when he hit cyclist 160 hours community service, banned for a year and to retake test 3. Driver was blinded by sun as he hit cyclists fined £500, 6 penalty points. Note the defence advocate said his (42 year old) client had in excess of 30 years driving experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 32 minutes ago, AOR said: 3. Driver was blinded by sun as he hit cyclists fined £500, 6 penalty points. Note the defence advocate said his (42 year old) client had in excess of 30 years driving experience. depends what the advocate meant by 'driving' i was driving a ride on lawnmower when i was 9 , massey 135 tractor at 11, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Should your parents hve let you? You wouldn't have been the first kid killed in a farming accident. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOR Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 1 hour ago, WTF said: depends what the advocate meant by 'driving' i was driving a ride on lawnmower when i was 9 , massey 135 tractor at 11, I thought something like this, but how relevant is it, in court, when you have just hit a couple of cyclists? I'll tell you how much relevance it is - fuck all relevance. It's just lawyers bollocks talk. Anyway, there are some good laughs in this list: https://www.martininsurance.com/humor-actual-statements-insurance-claims-great-britain/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Scum like this used to get a good pasting, Quite right, get rid of them South American Police style, no trial, just beat them up and hang them from a lamp post, lesson to others!!! .....and that guy who lets his Dog shit on the pavements, cut his legs off, then he wont be able to take his Dog out! Even if we find out later it was a mistake, well, still a lesson!!! Just as long as they don't bring in any laws about disparaging others on MF! Christ, how many of us would be left??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Three years for this. Really? https://gef.im/2022/09/21/taxi-driver-jailed-for-death-of-douglas-woman/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxweegie Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 42 minutes ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Three years for this. Really? https://gef.im/2022/09/21/taxi-driver-jailed-for-death-of-douglas-woman/ Deemster makes it pretty clear the reason for the sentence and even almost apologises it feels: "Addressing the length of the sentence imposed on Evans he told them ‘we are restrained by guidelines and Tynwald’ before saying he hoped that the sentencing of Evans would help them to move on. " This is something that needs to be addressed by Tynwald and the MHK's because not only has he taken a life he's wasted police time, lied and really shown no remorse whatsoever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Manxweegie said: Deemster makes it pretty clear the reason for the sentence and even almost apologises it feels: "Addressing the length of the sentence imposed on Evans he told them ‘we are restrained by guidelines and Tynwald’ before saying he hoped that the sentencing of Evans would help them to move on. " This is something that needs to be addressed by Tynwald and the MHK's because not only has he taken a life he's wasted police time, lied and really shown no remorse whatsoever. Why worry about things like this, when our politicos are more interested in climate change and other nonsense. Sad a life has been lost and punishment meted was poor. Do I think loopholes and sentences will be toughened? I would like to think so but unfortunately it’s hard to tell what Tynpotwalders membership priorities are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipsqueak Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, 2112 said: Why worry about things like this, when our politicos are more interested in climate change and other nonsense. Sad a life has been lost and punishment meted was poor. Do I think loopholes and sentences will be toughened? I would like to think so but unfortunately it’s hard to tell what Tynpotwalders membership priorities are. and his remand time will come off his 50% of time he'll serve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWolf Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Disgusting, should have got triple that sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Dave Hedgehog said: Three years for this. Really? https://gef.im/2022/09/21/taxi-driver-jailed-for-death-of-douglas-woman/ That's really bad to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtleish Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 That sentence is crazy! A family member of mine was given a couple of months shy of that for a kilo of weed! I really can't comprehend this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Turtleish said: That sentence is crazy! A family member of mine was given a couple of months shy of that for a kilo of weed! I really can't comprehend this. If the AGs have any sense they will Appeal it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOR Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Even at Appeal, the sentencing is still bound by what has been set by guidelines and Tynwald. I don't know how much room there is to amend the sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Genuine question because I don't know, but why do sentences run concurrently? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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