HeliX Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 13 hours ago, Chinahand said: Oh fuck ... why did I watch that Your post (whilst excellent) is the finest example of Brandolini's Law I've seen in ages. And it won't influence Stu one bit because he's already made up his mind that the truth is what's convenient to him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 11 minutes ago, HeliX said: Your post (whilst excellent) is the finest example of Brandolini's Law I've seen in ages. And it won't influence Stu one bit because he's already made up his mind that the truth is what's convenient to him. True... I've battled with Stu Peters' waters & gut for many years. Stu isn't interested in details he just has a gut feeling it's all a fuss about nothing and an excuse for diddling money out of people and so is against it. Especially when it all seems to effect people far away and his ability to change it is tiny. Mr Burgess is a different kettle of fish. He's deliberately gone into the details and deliberately selected them to support his case while deliberately ignoring evidence he knows about but which refutes his position. How you deal with either of these personality types is genuinely challenging. Arguing about the science is one thing but really that is a misdirection. Evidence based policy making and adopting sensible energy policies is the point. Wind energy is something the island can benefit from, especially with the interconnector as is home insulation. It is tragic that climate denial is being used to squash sensible policies which, if implemented properly, would benefit the island. And what a shame Stu Peters MHK is sitting there with his gut at the centre of this web of distortion. Come on Stu you are better than this. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 13 minutes ago, Chinahand said: Come on Stu you are better than this. Based on what evidence? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 On 6/8/2024 at 8:09 PM, NoTail said: I claim no expertise in this but are you suggesting that MU is deliberately trying to waste money on a project that can't work? Why would they do that? We know that experts are involved in approving this project. I suspect that secretly MU engineers and management are not really that interested in the turbine solution. I reckon their preference is to go full tilt at the interconnector solution with gas backup. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 14 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: I suspect that secretly MU engineers and management are not really that interested in the turbine solution. I reckon their preference is to go full tilt at the interconnector solution with gas backup. Hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 42 minutes ago, HiVibes said: 1 hour ago, Chinahand said: Come on Stu you are better than this. Based on what evidence? Based on affection for the forum's, and the Island's, grumpy right wing uncle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 (edited) The view that climate change science is a con to extract money from people is bewildering. The industry that has actually been extracting money from people for generations, and has every intention of continuing to do so no matter the consequences, is the fossil fuel industry. If you want to go down the conspiracy theory route, follow the actual money. Edited June 10 by Mr. Sausages 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 7 minutes ago, Mr. Sausages said: The view that climate change science is a con to extract money from people is bewildering. The industry that has actually been extracting money from people for generations, and has every intention of continuing to do so no matter the consequences, is the fossil fuel industry. If you want to go down the conspiracy theory route, follow the actual money. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 21 minutes ago, HeliX said: You omitted Bill & Melinda, World Economic Forum, the Clintons, Blackrock, Soros the WHO & Daphne Cain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 2 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: I suspect that secretly MU engineers and management are not really that interested in the turbine solution. I reckon their preference is to go full tilt at the interconnector solution with gas backup. So your theory is that it's all a conspiracy, what are Bill and Melinda up to this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 5 minutes ago, HiVibes said: So your theory is that it's all a conspiracy, what are Bill and Melinda up to this time? No conspiracy just an educated guess based on what is achievable for the least capital expenditure. I think the wind turbine issue is something that the politicians are pushing for because it's something that can been seen, nothing more. And since an interconnector won't be visible it's not considered climate-sexy enough which is why it comes second in importance. Bill & Melinda? What have they got to do with my supposition? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 1 minute ago, Andy Onchan said: No conspiracy just an educated guess based on what is achievable for the least capital expenditure. I think the wind turbine issue is something that the politicians are pushing for because it's something that can been seen, nothing more. And since an interconnector won't be visible it's not considered climate-sexy enough which is why it comes second in importance. Bill & Melinda? What have they got to do with my supposition? Wind Turbines are something that can be done many years quicker than an interconnector, so it's a very poorly educated guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, HiVibes said: Wind Turbines are something that can be done many years quicker than an interconnector, so it's a very poorly educated guess. And solar could be done immediately, is less intrusive, can be put anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian rush Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 Stu established his gut feelings on this along time ago and now he’s found some shit science from a Britain First water engineer which fits his thoughts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 26 minutes ago, Cambon said: And solar could be done immediately, is less intrusive, can be put anywhere. Solar is being done at the same time and has a place. Not so good on an overcast day in December though. We are much more wind rich than we are sun rich....sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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