WTF Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 minute ago, b4mbi said: yes, true, but we have resiliency of supply presently through an interconnector cable, gas supply, and oil generators (with a small percentage of hyrdoelectric capacity) so build/install 2 more interconnectors so we have 3 total , even at 100 million each it would still be half what we paid for our current power station 20 years ago. and we would have even more resiliency . as to the idea that croga would somehow be supplying gas cheaper than anywhere else, wake up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idleweiss Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 23 minutes ago, HiVibes said: Certainly sexual chemistry between him and Wint, flies a drone and sounds like one. He is the one of the Juanon ( and on and on and on and on and on and on) gang right wing noodles, english of course all of them. To be fair even trying to be as objective as you can that Manx Tadio YouTube clip of Burgess and Lamara Craine is a complete train wreck. He has a level of control of the delivery which only comes with age. She comes across as a little girl who can’t get her own way other than stomp her feet and shout “Look mummy he’s a very bad man, he once shared a platform with Tommy Robinson” rather than counter anything he actually said in the studio. In relation to Burgess to be fair he does come across as very Brexity and has been on GB News etc which hardly adds to his credibility. But he openly said that he has no fixed affiliations with the far right groups they said he was linked to. So I suppose it’s up to those making the accusations to prove that he’s wrong if that isn’t true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 11 hours ago, Cambon said: Better to ban young people from driving. Old people are the safest demographic. Have an interesting graph: Younger drivers are certainly dangerous, but at least they improve with time. Older drivers less so. It's interesting that it also shows women drivers as a bit worse in most age groups than men. I suspect this is because women are more likely to make more short journeys than men and these are more dangerous per mile statistically. The same may apply a bit to older drivers, but not enough to explain these figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 11 hours ago, finlo said: I thought the master plan was to force us all onto electric so all money flows back to government? What master plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 12 minutes ago, Idleweiss said: But he openly said that he has no fixed affiliations with the far right groups they said he was linked to. So I suppose it’s up to those making the accusations to prove that he’s wrong if that isn’t true. He was official spokesman for the 'For Britain Movement', who are aligned with the fascist ultra right BNP, but I am pretty sure you know that already, and this is just willful ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 31 minutes ago, WTF said: so build/install 2 more interconnectors so we have 3 total , even at 170 million each it would be 70% what we paid for our current power station 20 years ago. but we wouldn't have any more resiliency as the existing interconnector is at end of life. as to the idea that croga would somehow be supplying gas cheaper than anywhere else, wake up. - Agreed Corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 12 hours ago, Happier diner said: What's going to power the central heating if not gas or oil? What central heating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 minute ago, Cambon said: What central heating? 13 hours ago, Cambon said: Better to ban fossil fuel central heating, as that is the single largest contributor to the island’s carbon footprint. Besides, why ban over 65s? They are the safest demographic. You tell me. You quoted it. I assumed you meant the current gas or oil central heating that the vast majority of houses on the Isle of man have. Or did you mean something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4mbi Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 40 minutes ago, Roger Ram said: Resilience of supply could be an interconnect to UK and another to Ireland, coming into different sides of the island. Probably expensive initially but once up and running let our two much bigger neighbours deal with the issues and expense of generation and send it to us. and hold us over a barrel for pricing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4mbi Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 41 minutes ago, WTF said: as to the idea that croga would somehow be supplying gas cheaper than anywhere else, wake up. Clearly following the Crogga proposal closely then. They've guaranteed to cap the price to IOM at 80p per therm. if the price goes lower then Island gets that lower price. All perfectly achievable as the IOM consumption is only 5-10% of the estimated recoverable gas field - the rest would be sold at market price on international markets. Anyone thinking that gas isn't going to be part of the energy mix in 2050 should wake up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 22 minutes ago, Happier diner said: What master plan? The plan that ultimately every penny you spend ends up in the governments arse pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idleweiss Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 31 minutes ago, HiVibes said: He was official spokesman for the 'For Britain Movement', who are aligned with the fascist ultra right BNP, but I am pretty sure you know that already, and this is just willful ignorance. Why would I know this? You seem to be trying to suggest that anyone who went to listen was some sort of right-wing fascist which is yet another silly fallacy being pedaled. I’ve already said he comes across as a bit Brexity but unlike Ms Craine I’m not going to have a girlish cry about it. Because he was there to explain his views on where we are going wrong on climate policy not on illegal immigrants or leaving the EU. It is entirely possible to separate two different issues if you try. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ram Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) 29 minutes ago, b4mbi said: and hold us over a barrel for pricing... I would rather that than the stupid situation we have now. 7 minutes ago, Idleweiss said: It is entirely possible to separate two different issues if you try. So many people are incapable of doing this, and so if they disagree with someone’s views on one subject they automatically disregard any valid input they have on another. Its very odd, and they must be very difficult to live or work with. Edited June 21 by Roger Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 12 hours ago, HiVibes said: Welcome to reality https://www.nia.nih.gov/health/safety/safe-driving-older-adults#:~:text=As you age%2C your joints,wheel quickly%2C or brake safely. An article full of words like “might” and “can”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ram Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 4 minutes ago, Cambon said: An article full of words like “might” and “can”. You are missing one major thing in those figures. Roger Mexico has already covered it but you graph is meaningless, while his shows the true story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.