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22 hours ago, Cambon said:

But will it? We are talking about a 20Mw windfarm, which if we are lucky will run at 1/3 capacity, so 6.67Mw. Our requirement varies from around 25 min. to 75 peak, with an average of around 40Mw. 6.67 is 1/6 of the average. 

Average 20MW

From MUAs site:

"An average 20MW capacity windfarm on the Isle of Man is expected to generate at least 58GWh per year.

 

A windfarm at Earystane and Scard of at least 20MW could be expected to produce between 104 and 149 GWh of renewable electricity per year which is enough electricity to supply more than a third of current electricity demand on the Isle of Man."

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28 minutes ago, Mercenary said:

Average 20MW

From MUAs site:

"An average 20MW capacity windfarm on the Isle of Man is expected to generate at least 58GWh per year.

 

A windfarm at Earystane and Scard of at least 20MW could be expected to produce between 104 and 149 GWh of renewable electricity per year which is enough electricity to supply more than a third of current electricity demand on the Isle of Man."

You are flogging a dead horse. The neigh sayers don't want to hear this, even though its a fact.

I reckon about £6M of gas will be saved each year. Easily paying back the investment in less than 10 years. 

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I've just been looking at an exchange on FB where contributor "SustainIoM" is claiming that the MUA debt is due to people not being charged enough for their electricity... 🤔

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2 hours ago, Happier diner said:

You are flogging a dead horse. The neigh sayers don't want to hear this, even though its a fact.

I reckon about £6M of gas will be saved each year. Easily paying back the investment in less than 10 years. 

The statement from mua site that he quoted is speculative. 
“Could be expected to” 

There is no certainty. Completely speculative. 
 

Additionally, those turbines will cost at least £6M a year in maintenance, diesel, etc. Add to that the fact that there will not be change from £100M because they are in the wrong place, this is potentially the biggest white elephant from iomg yet.

I am not against wind power. I am against Earystane. 

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2 hours ago, Happier diner said:

You are flogging a dead horse. The neigh sayers don't want to hear this, even though its a fact.

I reckon about £6M of gas will be saved each year. Easily paying back the investment in less than 10 years. 

I love that - neigh sayers and a dead horse :)

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2 hours ago, Happier diner said:

You are flogging a dead horse. The neigh sayers don't want to hear this, even though its a fact.

I reckon about £6M of gas will be saved each year. Easily paying back the investment in less than 10 years. 

£6m sounds light when cost of electricity for MU is currently circa £56m

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1 hour ago, Happier diner said:

If you think about it they have all the staff costs, maintenance costs, paying back the debt. Has is significant in terms of cost, but not the biggest. 

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I read that as £63m of marginal costs for generation (presumably mostly gas) ?

 

As an aside MU overheads always look high relative to other DNOs, they seem to go relatively under the radar in terms of government cost & efficiencies.

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1 hour ago, Mercenary said:

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I read that as £63m of marginal costs for generation (presumably mostly gas) ?

 

As an aside MU overheads always look high relative to other DNOs, they seem to go relatively under the radar in terms of government cost & efficiencies.

That makes sense.

So if Island demand averages 50MW per day. The wind turbines are 20MW but have a capacity factor of 0.4 that's 56*20*.4/50

£9M? Saved

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