Cambon Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 https://www.easyliveauction.com/catalogue/lot/974a63ef5d426e1454bb30580fbce24f/0af8d24542e81eb9357e7ef448a6646f/vehicles-tools-equipment-digger-and-more-lot-96/ Bargain for somebody! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 22 hours ago, Cambon said: But will it? We are talking about a 20Mw windfarm, which if we are lucky will run at 1/3 capacity, so 6.67Mw. Our requirement varies from around 25 min. to 75 peak, with an average of around 40Mw. 6.67 is 1/6 of the average. Average 20MW From MUAs site: "An average 20MW capacity windfarm on the Isle of Man is expected to generate at least 58GWh per year. A windfarm at Earystane and Scard of at least 20MW could be expected to produce between 104 and 149 GWh of renewable electricity per year which is enough electricity to supply more than a third of current electricity demand on the Isle of Man." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 28 minutes ago, Mercenary said: Average 20MW From MUAs site: "An average 20MW capacity windfarm on the Isle of Man is expected to generate at least 58GWh per year. A windfarm at Earystane and Scard of at least 20MW could be expected to produce between 104 and 149 GWh of renewable electricity per year which is enough electricity to supply more than a third of current electricity demand on the Isle of Man." You are flogging a dead horse. The neigh sayers don't want to hear this, even though its a fact. I reckon about £6M of gas will be saved each year. Easily paying back the investment in less than 10 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 I've just been looking at an exchange on FB where contributor "SustainIoM" is claiming that the MUA debt is due to people not being charged enough for their electricity... 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 hours ago, Happier diner said: You are flogging a dead horse. The neigh sayers don't want to hear this, even though its a fact. I reckon about £6M of gas will be saved each year. Easily paying back the investment in less than 10 years. The statement from mua site that he quoted is speculative. “Could be expected to” There is no certainty. Completely speculative. Additionally, those turbines will cost at least £6M a year in maintenance, diesel, etc. Add to that the fact that there will not be change from £100M because they are in the wrong place, this is potentially the biggest white elephant from iomg yet. I am not against wind power. I am against Earystane. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lamb Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 hours ago, Happier diner said: You are flogging a dead horse. The neigh sayers don't want to hear this, even though its a fact. I reckon about £6M of gas will be saved each year. Easily paying back the investment in less than 10 years. I love that - neigh sayers and a dead horse 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 hours ago, Happier diner said: You are flogging a dead horse. The neigh sayers don't want to hear this, even though its a fact. I reckon about £6M of gas will be saved each year. Easily paying back the investment in less than 10 years. £6m sounds light when cost of electricity for MU is currently circa £56m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, Mercenary said: £6m sounds light when cost of electricity for MU is currently circa £56m Yes but less than half of that is gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 hours ago, Harry Lamb said: I love that - neigh sayers and a dead horse I'm on all week.😬😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 50 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Yes but less than half of that is gas. Source ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 hours ago, Mercenary said: Source ? Annual report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 hours ago, Mercenary said: Source ? If you think about it they have all the staff costs, maintenance costs, paying back the debt. Has is significant in terms of cost, but not the biggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, Happier diner said: If you think about it they have all the staff costs, maintenance costs, paying back the debt. Has is significant in terms of cost, but not the biggest. I read that as £63m of marginal costs for generation (presumably mostly gas) ? As an aside MU overheads always look high relative to other DNOs, they seem to go relatively under the radar in terms of government cost & efficiencies. Edited June 26 by Mercenary typo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, Mercenary said: I read that as £63m of marginal costs for generation (presumably mostly gas) ? As an aside MU overheads always look high relative to other DNOs, they seem to go relatively under the radar in terms of government cost & efficiencies. That makes sense. So if Island demand averages 50MW per day. The wind turbines are 20MW but have a capacity factor of 0.4 that's 56*20*.4/50 £9M? Saved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primator Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 29 minutes ago, Happier diner said: £9M? Saved Perfect, £9m should cover the cost of snagging the new Liverpool shed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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