Is climate change a fraud?

[John Wright]

32 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said:

IOM Post doesn't use its vans at the weekend.

Or in the afternoons or overnight…

[Tinpot]

14 hours ago, Cambon said:

Sales of electric vehicles have peaked and are falling

Eh?

September was a new record month for electric car sales in the UK.

Worldwide sales are growing all the time.

[Capt_Mainwaring]

50 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said:

IOM Post doesn't use its vans at the weekend.

They do for parcel post...

[The Phantom]

22 minutes ago, Capt_Mainwaring said:

They do for parcel post...

Yep.  Every Saturday morning when walking the dog I see two guys and a big Post Van doing all the Amazon deliveries. 

[Non-Believer]

4 hours ago, Tinpot said:

September was a new record month for electric car sales in the UK.

Although there are some other factors behind that...

[Stu Peters]

19 hours ago, 2112 said:

It’s a bit confusing now that we the public know that the post office has spunked thousands of taxpayer pounds on electric vans - whilst at the same time pleading poverty and reducing services, like delivering letters and parcels. If the service is losing money, due to people and businesses not posting letters and parcels, due to the cost, how many years will it take to recoup the costs of the purchase of these electric vans, also taking into account maintenance, wear and tear, depreciation and potential battery issues? 
 

Or is the purchase of electric vehicles for a state owned and controlled loss making utility a grandstanding and dick waving exercise?

Taxpayer’s money? Not a penny of taxpayer’s money actually. And IOMPO makes profits that go back to Treasury every year. So you could hardly be more wrong.

And Chinahand, I didn’t ever say we were spending more on climate change than health or education, just that the money being frittered on these futile schemes would be better spent on real pressing issues.

[Non-Believer]

35 minutes ago, Stu Peters said:

Taxpayer’s money? Not a penny of taxpayer’s money actually.

The last person that spouted that self-indulgent shite was Eddie Teare, it was as wrong then as it is now.

It's ALL taxpayer's money, whether it's spent as a consumer or in payment of taxes and charges. This is something that IoMG lost sight of some time ago and why fiscal control is a joke on the Island.

Which leads on to why the Govt have now got no money and a £40M pa pensions deficit and public servants are about to remove funds from future public pension provision to help pay for it.

[Moghrey Mie]

4 hours ago, Stu Peters said:

Taxpayer’s money? Not a penny of taxpayer’s money actually. And IOMPO makes profits that go back to Treasury every year. So you could hardly be more wrong.

And Chinahand, I didn’t ever say we were spending more on climate change than health or education, just that the money being frittered on these futile schemes would be better spent on real pressing issues.

Buying electric vehicles is not 'frittering away' money. It is preventing more Co2 being released into the atmosphere. 

[Lxxx]

3 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said:

Buying electric vehicles is not 'frittering away' money. It is preventing more Co2 being released into the atmosphere. 

Purrrlease...

[Happier diner]

4 hours ago, Moghrey Mie said:

Buying electric vehicles is not 'frittering away' money. It is preventing more Co2 being released into the atmosphere. 

But the CO2 is released at the power station instead. They do not reduce CO2 emissions unless the electricity that they use to charge the battery is renewable. E. G wind

[Chinahand]

The Combined Cycle Gas Turbine is more efficient than diesel/petrol engines. 

[doc.fixit]

39 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

But the CO2 is released at the power station instead. They do not reduce CO2 emissions unless the electricity that they use to charge the battery is renewable. E. G wind

But all the so called renewables cost massive emissions in manufacture, maintenance, construction and disposal at end of short life.

[The Phantom]

EVs might not be so popular in places with high flooding potential in the future.  

From a Hurricane Milton report:

"Floridians have been warned that their electric vehicles could pose a deadly threat during salt water storm surges.

Fire marshal Jimmy Patronis warned that storm surges in coastal areas can turn EVs and other products powered by lithium-ion batteries into 'ticking time bombs.'

He said there were at least 50 fires sparked by lithium-ion batteries during Hurricane Helene, with 11 involving electric vehicles which had their batteries combust.

“The average citizen I guarantee you does not realize they have a liability in their house with the salt water flooding,” Patronis told the Miami Herald.

Experts say owners of EVs should place their cars on higher ground in preparation for storm surges."

[Two-lane]

21 minutes ago, The Phantom said:

Experts say owners of EVs should place their cars on higher ground in preparation for storm surges."

Douglas prom. should be OK now that the tsunami barriers are up.

[The Phantom]

23 minutes ago, Two-lane said:

Douglas prom. should be OK now that the tsunami barriers are up.

There was actually a Tesla  covered in seaweed and abandoned in the middle of Castletown prom a couple of years ago. It had been fried in a storm/flooding/waves.