TT 2023

[0bserver]

How is anyone surprise by the results. 

You let amateurs build soapbox racers with powerful engines. You let them speed around narrow public highways at speeds of over 100mph... and you're surprised when it goes a bit wrong. 

Astounding. 

[The Phantom]

11 hours ago, Non-Believer said:

The fairing is not a structural part of the machine though, it has some aerodynamic value but it does not form part of the strength of the construction of the outfit, they are mostly made of fibreglass or the more expensive option, carbon fibre.

It seems a little unusual to be bringing this into play unless this "deformation" interfered in some way with steering or suspension systems.

Plenty of fairings, both solo and sidecar, experience a certain amount of flex and distortion in use both from mechanical forces and aerodynamics.

Yup.  I'd say there is certainly a chance that fairing distortion could cause some steering issues.  Even just a little nudge or stiffness in one direction at those speeds could be catastrophic. 

You can steer an old VW Beetle by using the flip out side windows as rudders at speed. 

[Max Power]

6 hours ago, The Phantom said:

Yup.  I'd say there is certainly a chance that fairing distortion could cause some steering issues.  Even just a little nudge or stiffness in one direction at those speeds could be catastrophic. 

You can steer an old VW Beetle by using the flip out side windows as rudders at speed. 

Yes, or wind getting under a distorted area could cause partial lift on one side affecting the landing and drift to one side. 

[Max Power]

16 hours ago, 0bserver said:

How is anyone surprise by the results. 

You let amateurs build soapbox racers with powerful engines. You let them speed around narrow public highways at speeds of over 100mph... and you're surprised when it goes a bit wrong. 

Astounding. 

Which amateurs? Have you even bothered to have a look at the workmanship and design which goes into one of these outfits?

 

Edited March 3, 2023 by Max Power

[x-in-man]

16 hours ago, 0bserver said:

 

Astounding. 

Yep - you certainly are.

[Steve_Christian]

18 hours ago, Non-Believer said:

The fairing is not a structural part of the machine though, it has some aerodynamic value but it does not form part of the strength of the construction of the outfit, they are mostly made of fibreglass or the more expensive option, carbon fibre.

It seems a little unusual to be bringing this into play unless this "deformation" interfered in some way with steering or suspension systems.

Plenty of fairings, both solo and sidecar, experience a certain amount of flex and distortion in use both from mechanical forces and aerodynamics.

It mentions that the deformation could have touched the tyre - which would potentially be a cause of the crash. 

[Steve_Christian]

19 hours ago, Mr Helmut Fromage said:

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/stocktons-sidecar-suffered-from-massive-distortion-to-bodywork/
 

Nothing to see here - move along not long now “Greatest show on Earth” - doing what they loved.

 

 

Good to have you as part of the club (finally). 😎

[WTF]

31 minutes ago, Steve_Christian said:

It mentions that the deformation could have touched the tyre - which would potentially be a cause of the crash. 

its going to be full of could haves, possiblys and maybes which will be educated conjecture.

[Mr Helmut Fromage]

5 hours ago, Max Power said:

Which amateurs? Have you even bothered to have a look at the workmanship and design which goes into one of these outfits?

 

Technical officials who’d signed off the Stockton’s sidecar, before the race, had recorded that the outfit was ‘free of defects’.

These amateurs…………

Its hard to criticise your mates at times but mistakes have consequences.

Lessons will be learned- scrutineering failure - volunteers with armbands and hi viz again.

 

Edited March 3, 2023 by Mr Helmut Fromage
Needless death

[Max Power]

15 minutes ago, Mr Helmut Fromage said:

Technical officials who’d signed off the Stockton’s sidecar, before the race, had recorded that the outfit was ‘free of defects’.

These amateurs…………

Its hard to criticise your mates at times but mistakes have consequences.

Lessons will be learned- scrutineering failure - volunteers with armbands and hi viz again.

 

That's quite an allegation, you don't know that there was any mistake, just wild speculation as usual. Do you mean that something can't break despite being sound when examined previously? You don't know much about motorsport, engineering or metallurgy.

What makes you call scrutineers amateurs? You obviously know nothing about them either. 

[Passing Time]

11 minutes ago, Max Power said:

That's quite an allegation, you don't know that there was any mistake, just wild speculation as usual. Do you mean that something can't break despite being sound when examined previously? You don't know much about motorsport, engineering or metallurgy.

What makes you call scrutineers amateurs? You obviously know nothing about them either. 

You do realise that he is a piss poor troll who just tries (and sometimes succeeds) to reel people in.

[HiVibes]

On 2/27/2023 at 8:54 PM, Max Power said:

Two spectators, a policeman and, a horse.

Notches on the bed post?

[forestboy]

1 minute ago, HiVibes said:

Notches on the bed post?

You are sick. 

[HiVibes]

1 minute ago, forestboy said:

You are sick. 

Were you the policeman?

[Passing Time]

Just now, HiVibes said:

Were you the policeman?

You don’t have to be a policeman to recognise what a complete twat you are…