Cambon Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 23 hours ago, Happier diner said: Can you prove that? I think you mean retail businesses Firstly, I don't need to prove it. It is why Black Friday is called Black Friday. Secondly, a business is a business and a business should be run in a way that works for that business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Max Power said: Having a total shutdown in the building industry, and other sectors, is not having the adverse effect you'd like to believe Boris. Those two weeks of inactivity are part of their holiday entitlement. It, like Christmas and New Year (maybe they should be banned too?) prevents huge inefficiencies when part of the staff are on holiday at irregular times. If you have to open a business with all of the costs involved, you need to maximise the time spent at the job, this isn't possible when people are sporadically absent. A total shutdown is far more efficient as other costs are eliminated also! This is correct, but to take it further, if there are 12 people working on a job, each has a month's holiday entitlement a year, that means at any one time one person will be off on average. So to extract the full potential of a 12 man team, you need to employ 13. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 23 hours ago, Cambon said: It is the way most American businesses work. Black Friday being the day the company's balance sheets finally go in the black! Or the day when you stand down by the door and catch all the grey men as they dive from the fourteenth floor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, Cambon said: ... a business is a business and a business should be run in a way that works for that business. And if we weren't here we wouldn't be where we are now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, Cambon said: Firstly, I don't need to prove it. It is why Black Friday is called Black Friday. Secondly, a business is a business and a business should be run in a way that works for that business. Ok. I'll change the question. Where did you source this information? Is there a reference? Only a certain amount of business money is in the retail sector, there is a significant proportion not in retail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, quilp said: And if we weren't here we wouldn't be where we are now. Most businesses started with nothing and have most of it left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, Cambon said: This is correct, but to take it further, if there are 12 people working on a job, each has a month's holiday entitlement a year, that means at any one time one person will be off on average. So to extract the full potential of a 12 man team, you need to employ 13. I agree with that, but what point are you making? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Happier diner said: I agree with that, but what point are you making? If it's Govt, at least 30% of those will be signed off 'sick'. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Max Power said: Having a total shutdown in the building industry, and other sectors, is not having the adverse effect you'd like to believe Boris. Those two weeks of inactivity are part of their holiday entitlement. It, like Christmas and New Year (maybe they should be banned too?) prevents huge inefficiencies when part of the staff are on holiday at irregular times. If you have to open a business with all of the costs involved, you need to maximise the time spent at the job, this isn't possible when people are sporadically absent. A total shutdown is far more efficient as other costs are eliminated also! Its tail wagging dog. Why would anyone want 2 weeks off if their kids are at school and partner has to work because its TT. What era do you come from? Yes, its works with factories so in some industries it works to have a shutdown. But not at the end of May/ start of June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Why would anyone want 2 weeks off if their kids are at school and partner has to work because its TT. 2 weeks to sit in my underpants on the sofa and drink wine? Sign me up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Its tail wagging dog. Why would anyone want 2 weeks off if their kids are at school and partner has to work because its TT. What era do you come from? Yes, its works with factories so in some industries it works to have a shutdown. But not at the end of May/ start of June. Don't kids get TT week off anymore? If you go on holiday in May June, it's certainly cheaper than July August. What's it got to do with any era I may come from, it's not the self entitled one you seem to come from I'm guessing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Just now, Max Power said: Don't kids get TT week off anymore? If you go on holiday in May June, it's certainly cheaper than July August. What's it got to do with any era I may come from, it's not the self entitled one you seem to come from I'm guessing Mostly schools are off race week and sometimes both depending on Easter. Yes sometimes it works in favour of some people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, HeliX said: 2 weeks to sit in my underpants on the sofa and drink wine? Sign me up. Yes. Now you mention it😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, HeliX said: 2 weeks to sit in my underpants on the sofa and drink wine? Sign me up. an easily forgettable image... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, HeliX said: 2 weeks to sit in my underpants on the sofa and drink wine? Sign me up. Oooooh... too much detail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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