Manx Bean Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Now, if I was a betting man.. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/civil-services-cultural-issues-must-be-reformed-in-next-12-months/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Alf's hit list still has a lot of names on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, 0bserver said: Alf's hit list still has a lot of names on it. You get the clear impression that he is working through some sort of list. At the moment I believe Cannan is committed to dealing with this professionally as someone with his background (in recruitment and HR) would. That said it does look like there is more than a hint of self preservation here. The first ones at the very top of the civil service and the DHSC and Human Resources office were presumably preemptive of actions pending or due which might make government look bad had the post holders still had jobs when charges or rulings ultimately fall. Take the liability out before it bounces back on you. You even see in the tribunal case of Kevin Kennington that Greenhow was arrogant enough to tell Kennington in writing that he had shared the findings of the independent report into his situation (known as the Roberts Report) with the Tynwald Select Committee and Julie Edge (as the whistleblowing representative) only for the tribunal to find that the Tynwald Select Committee actually had to threaten Greenhow with action in order to obtain the report. This was a report the taxpayer had paid for and which they were fully entitled to receive. But the Chief Secretary seemed to decide that the politicians weren’t entitled to see it because it was embarrassing to him and his officers. If this is the basic level of internal corruption they are dealing with then God knows what other issues have been kept a lid on over the years. So I think you’ll find the first wave will largely be to do with liability management and face saving before he moves onto people who are just useless power crazed assholes. Pages 18 & 19 https://gef.im/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/httpswww.judgments.imcontentET2020-3220Dr20Kevin20Kennington20V20Public20Service20Commission.pdf Edited June 17, 2022 by Newsdesk Add link 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Newsdesk said: You get the clear impression that he is working through some sort of list. At the moment I believe Cannan is committed to dealing with this professionally as someone with his background (in recruitment and HR) would. That said it does look like there is more than a hint of self preservation here. The first ones at the very top of the civil service and the DHSC and Human Resources office were presumably preemptive of actions pending or due which might make government look bad had the post holders still had jobs when charges or rulings ultimately fall. Take the liability out before it bounces back on you. You even see in the tribunal case of Kevin Kennington that Greenhow was arrogant enough to tell Kennington in writing that he had shared the findings of the report into his situation with the PAC and Julie Edge (as the whistleblowing representative) only for the tribunal to find that they actually had to threaten Greenhow with action in order to obtain the report. This was a report the taxpayer had paid for and which they were fully entitled to receive. But the Chief Secretary seemed to decide that the politicians weren’t entitled to see it because it was embarrassing. If this is the basic level of internal corruption they are dealing with then God knows what other issues have been kept a lid on over the years. So I think you’ll find the first wave will largely be to do with liability management and face saving before he moves onto people who are just useless power crazed assholes. A lot of 'stuff' that fell under the purview of the former Chief Secretary is now being unearthed. There will be more. Edited June 17, 2022 by Andy Onchan 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Andy Onchan said: A lot of 'stuff' that fell under the purview of the former Chief Secretary are now being unearthed. There will be more. As I said the first wave looks like it’s pure liability management and damage limitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steady Eddie Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, Newsdesk said: As I said the first wave looks like it’s pure liability management and damage limitation. Hopefully with Longtail now gone that’s a precursor to some sort of investigation into our rather unhealthy relationship with Mercedes Benz UK then. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Was all this included in the Island Plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Steady Eddie said: Hopefully with Longtail now gone that’s a precursor to some sort of investigation into our rather unhealthy relationship with Mercedes Benz UK then. There was no corruption. Just elite level shithousery 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 57 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said: Was all this included in the Island Plan? "Keeping the powder dry".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: A lot of 'stuff' that fell under the purview of the former Chief Secretary is now being unearthed. There will be more. There'll be a whole generation of CS who've got out "just in time" I'd bet and are breathing sighs of relief because of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: There'll be a whole generation of CS who've got out "just in time" I'd bet and are breathing sighs of relief because of it. It only really badly started going wrong around 15 years ago. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-in-man Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 If the busses were running he’ll throw a lot of people under them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, 0bserver said: There was no corruption. Just elite level shithousery Do you actually believe that… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Passing Time said: Do you actually believe that… Yes. He was an absolute shithouse being able to get away with that stuff. If it was corruption then it wouldn't have been in the public spotlight. Incompetent, probably. Corrupt, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Once a person accepts a high end role in the CS. they have to accept that they may be named and shamed. That seems to be what is happening. However, the lower orders are not in this category, their leaving will be lower profile and that is fair even if they are deemed to be 'Bullies', they weren't paid to be fodder in this exercise . We may not hear of these other resignations further down the line but can hope that they are going in this exercise, if rather more quietly??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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