0bserver Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Just now, Happier diner said: Is that a fact or an opinion? It's a general fact with exceptions. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Roxanne said: Buy a paper? Who still does that? 😬 Sadly IOM Newspapers is doing that thing where they won’t carry the story on the website other than the headline as they’re trying to get people to buy a paper. It will be no doubt online next week when it’s old news to try to generate some angry comments and clicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, Newsdesk said: Sadly IOM Newspapers is doing that thing where they won’t carry the story on the website other than the headline as they’re trying to get people to buy a paper. It will be no doubt online next week when it’s old news to try to generate some angry comments and clicks. Hope this helps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, John Wright said: Hope this helps On a scale of 1 to Dr. Ranson Tribunal... how serious is this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, 0bserver said: On a scale of 1 to Dr. Ranson Tribunal... how serious is this one? 0 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, 0bserver said: On a scale of 1 to Dr. Ranson Tribunal... how serious is this one? if you're a scallop it's very serious. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, WTF said: if you're a scallop it's very serious. Some of my best friends are scallops! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 shellfish poisoning is very serious and some people can die from it , if an outbreak was traced to isle of man caught produce , it would destroy whats left of our fishing industry ,we will have enough to worry about , and increased sea temperatures witch produce algae , that is also poisonous to shellfish and humans , 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Has the issue of dumping toxic waste at sea been resolved to the satisfaction of marine experts such as Dr Gell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebean Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 The problems started, in my opinion when senior positions in Government were reassessed in the mid 2000s, mostly internally and were put into a “Leadership Group” with big salary rises. This might have been ok if the positions and titles were at all dependent on Leadership. Greenhow was soon groomed for the Chief Secretary role and occupied a position where he was able to appoint and oversee a group of similarly inclined individuals who revelled in their authority and salaries and where self-protection and cronyism was rife. This allowed a culture to develop where only those with similar views and opinions were nurtured and joining the elite at the top was like joining a close-knit and increasingly hostile club. Those whose opinions differed or did not fit in were sidelined and ignored or bullied into submission. Of course, this environment could not have developed or be sustained under strong political leadership but we have had successive administrations over the last 15 years who have either lacked the ability to assert themselves or have been too easily submissive to the CS and COG. Cabinet Office became a powerful, set its own rules and managed Government. Whistleblowing was “managed”accordingly. Hopefully, the creation of false documents to the Ransom Tribunal was the high water mark of this poisonous culture and led to its unravelling. I suspect there is more unravelling to be done, before a new CS can emerge. There are plenty of honest and competent people within the CS, or available outside of it to take it forward. Some existing politicians who operated under the previous regime ought also to consider whether they are truly fit to govern us. 4 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Derek Flint said: Around 1993, whilst with Lancs Police, I suggested the formation of a “what the fuck do you do?” Department. From what I had seen, across a force of 3500 officers, I reckoned we could return around 300 to the streets. The plan was a member of the team would interview every officer in the force and if they couldn’t come up with a clear and credible answer within 30 seconds the had to present themselves at clothing stores for a new uniform and parade on for nights at the next possible opportunity. But the problem for most of these people is that there isn't a front line to go to. Everything's either been outsourced or never existed. The closest they have ever come to serving the public is writing a press release. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, SleepyJoe said: Has the issue of dumping toxic waste at sea been resolved to the satisfaction of marine experts such as Dr Gell? That's the point though isn't it. Its not dumped to sea, it sucked out of the harbour and sent to lagoons (at great expense) in tankers. Unless something has changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptarmigan Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 joebean has it pretty much spot on. It was a very toxic culture. The problem is they now have a lot of vacancies to fill. And there's been little or no succession management, and good people who were counter to the culture have long gone. There are really good people in the Civil Service - particularly in technical roles - but it's a massive ship to turn round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 3 hours ago, John Wright said: Hope this helps Thanks. You’re clearly a subscriber. It’s not on the general site yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Manx Radio reports that 8o CS have left since May, 222k paid out!!! Is this a normal attrition rate or is there some connection to the Ranson tribunal revelations??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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