jackwhite Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 12 hours ago, Beyond Belief said: Its simple, don't go out, and lets see how quickly they reduce their prices and increase their measures. Play them at their own game. It's actually not simple. It was probably best explained by Andy Saunders. A change was always being forced on the industry from IOMG. The choices were reduce to a 25 ml measure or increase to a 35ml measure. By doing the latter prices would have gone up 30% minimum (to reflect the larger pour and associated costs). So most of them went for the 25 ml measure so that there wouldn't be any actual increase to the customer. Whether they adjust prices accordingly we'll see. Your 'logic' is flawed. There already isn't enough support for hospitality. Staffing issues means even more problems. What you suggest will put the independents out of business completely. Then you'll be left with the brewery and very few places to go on a night out. Then no doubt people will complain or say it's sad that these places have gone or they have nowhere to go. I've saved money and actually got to the stage of agreeing a let with someone however I'm reconsidering whether to go ahead as it's a gamble given the current lack of support. It will only get worse as we appear to be heading into a recession. If I'm thinking this you can be sure there are other people in the same boat. Landlords themselves haven't actually done anything wrong (yet). If the price of a drink comes down in relation to the reduced serving then what exactly will they have to be punished about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOR Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) On 6/27/2022 at 8:21 PM, Albert Tatlock said: I highly suspect you're confusing advanced technology with the fact that most of our MHKs fathers should have shot their offspring into space. Or erm, shot them over the back seat of the car/back alley Edited September 8, 2022 by AOR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAsHell Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/reduced-alcohol-measures-from-end-of-september/ A reminder from the government to lower prices accordingly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Says alter, not lower No one in their right minds is going to lower their prices - they've probably been working on reduced margins for ages 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 hour ago, SleepyJoe said: Says alter, not lower No one in their right minds is going to lower their prices - they've probably been working on reduced margins for ages Reduced margins? When pubs are selling bottles of beer at near 4X retail? No sympathy from me! They are shooting themselves in the foot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 It's a reduction from 1/5th gill (28.4 ml) to 25 ml, which is about 12%. So you might feel that is enough to justify a price cut. Or no rise for a year given current inflation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Fantastic news, I'll get more shots from a bottle now!!! 😃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Cambon said: Reduced margins? When pubs are selling bottles of beer at near 4X retail? No sympathy from me! They are shooting themselves in the foot! Many of them will be tied to the brewery in some way & obliged to pay their prices, so in an effort to make some sort of profit they have to sell at high prices compared to retail stores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 43 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: It's a reduction from 1/5th gill (28.4 ml) to 25 ml, which is about 12%. So you might feel that is enough to justify a price cut. Or no rise for a year given current inflation. The latter is more likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevster Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said: Many of them will be tied to the brewery in some way & obliged to pay their prices, so in an effort to make some sort of profit they have to sell at high prices compared to retail stores I knew a tenant landlord in Greewich who was tied to a brewery. He could have got the exact same beers and spirits from the cash and carry 1/2 mile down the road at about a third of the price he had to pay the brewery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Cambon said: Reduced margins? When pubs are selling bottles of beer at near 4X retail? No sympathy from me! They are shooting themselves in the foot! Better to say nothing and be considered a fool than to talk and remove all doubt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 On 9/8/2022 at 2:22 PM, Cambon said: Reduced margins? When pubs are selling bottles of beer at near 4X retail? No sympathy from me! They are shooting themselves in the foot! £4 40 for a bottle of Bud in Jaks . Thats just terrible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackwhite Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Numbnuts said: £4 40 for a bottle of Bud in Jaks . Thats just terrible You're right, Bud is terrible. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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