2112 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 15 hours ago, John Wright said: There’s a breast cancer ward and an oncology day centre at which a surprisingly large number of different chemotherapy treatments can be, and are, delivered. I am not complaining or moaning and appreciate and knew this, but merely trying to illustrate some of things we haven’t got, we won’t get, due to the size and population of the island. I doubt we would get these facilities if the population grew over 100,000 people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriT Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 12 hours ago, HeliX said: Seems to be a money tree for all the wrong things. And there's enough wealth in the world to cover everyone's needs, it's just hoarded by a few. All the wrong things? You mean like treating cancer when some people desperately want their knob cut off? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Can someone enlighten me as to the prefix "trans". Does it denote transitioning from the gender stated or to it? So is a trans woman someone transitioning to or from a woman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 14 hours ago, BriT said: Crowd funding seems to be the way of choice for these people with platforms like crowdfunder. They normally seem to raise a few hundred quid out of the long thousands they are looking to raise. I haven’t seen the campaign of this person but I wouldn’t be holding my breath. https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/p/surgery-fundraiser Look at her Facebook page - she’s also got a just giving running for medical bills for a relative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, Whiskey said: Look at her Facebook page - she’s also got a just giving running for medical bills for a relative. Professional scrounger then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 hour ago, BriT said: All the wrong things? You mean like treating cancer when some people desperately want their knob cut off? No, I mean new Steam packet buildings in Liverpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 40 minutes ago, Gladys said: Can someone enlighten me as to the prefix "trans". Does it denote transitioning from the gender stated or to it? So is a trans woman someone transitioning to or from a woman? Generally a catchall for anyone who's gender is not the same as their sex assigned at birth. Its from the Latin trans, meaning across or opposite to, rather than being short for transition. Cis is from the Latin for "on the same side as". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, 2112 said: I am not complaining or moaning and appreciate and knew this, but merely trying to illustrate some of things we haven’t got, we won’t get, due to the size and population of the island. I doubt we would get these facilities if the population grew over 100,000 people. But there should be a smooth pathway to accessing those services in the UK or elsewhere. Reducing things down to some sort of hierarchy of conditions that acts as a filter allows Manx Care off the hook. I'm not that comfortable bundling gender identity issues in with mental health (maybe I'm wrong but is accurate to think of it that way?). But this woman's experience mirrors the experience I've heard of people with mental health issues, the neurologically diverse, and those with addiction issues and that whole pathway of GP referral to on-island support to accessing treatment seems broken. Whilst I understand the desire to help people whose medical needs aren't being met, I worry that the Crowdfunding route simply lets Manx Care managers off the hook. Edited August 3, 2022 by Declan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 53 minutes ago, Gladys said: Can someone enlighten me as to the prefix "trans". Does it denote transitioning from the gender stated or to it? So is a trans woman someone transitioning to or from a woman? The suffix is the destination gender. So a trans woman is a woman, a trans man is a man and they are at some point on the journey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 59 minutes ago, Gladys said: Can someone enlighten me as to the prefix "trans". Does it denote transitioning from the gender stated or to it? So is a trans woman someone transitioning to or from a woman? This used to confuse me too. The convention seems to be that the noun is the person's current gender, while 'trans' is operating as an adjective to indicate that their previous one was different. So a trans woman is someone who currently identifies as a woman (but previously wasn't) rather than a woman who is/has transitioned to a man. (TransMann must be so grateful they put in that second 'n'). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Yes, and once they're complete you can safely say they're transfixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: This used to confuse me too. The convention seems to be that the noun is the person's current gender, while 'trans' is operating as an adjective to indicate that their previous one was different. So a trans woman is someone who currently identifies as a woman (but previously wasn't) rather than a woman who is/has transitioned to a man. (TransMann must be so grateful they put in that second 'n'). Thanks. That makes sense. ETA the laughing emoji was re your reference to TransMann! Edited August 3, 2022 by Gladys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 It trips my dyslexic brain up (like the whole my left or your left thing). I find if I just ignore the trans part everything makes sense for every practical I'm going to have it's irrelevant. If someone says they're a woman why debate it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Declan said: It trips my dyslexic brain up (like the whole my left or your left thing). I find if I just ignore the trans part everything makes sense for every practical I'm going to have it's irrelevant. If someone says they're a woman why debate it. quite possibly because the dangly bits are a dead giveaway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Passing Time said: quite possibly because the dangly bits are a dead giveaway... Weirdo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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