The Voice of Reason Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, Steady Eddie said: Dead man’s shoes. It’s why the whole thing is dying on its arse. No experience of anything other than what they’ve been indoctrinated with by IOM Post. Or alternatively they have come to know the industry inside out and can use that knowledge to implement improvements rather than having been “ indoctrinated “ by some other business. The experience they would have gained by coming up through the ranks would be invaluable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steady Eddie Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, The Voice of Reason said: The experience they would have gained by coming up through the ranks would be invaluable. You’re clearly a civil servant who basically holds on to dead man’s shoes as their entire career path. It’s clear to see why this business is in such a mess as it can’t even see what it’s issues are as the people who run it probably are it’s main issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Steady Eddie said: You’re clearly a civil servant who basically holds on to dead man’s shoes as their entire career path. It’s clear to see why this business is in such a mess as it can’t even see what it’s issues are as the people who run it probably are it’s main issues. I’m not a civil servant. and never have been Edited December 8, 2022 by The Voice of Reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steady Eddie Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, The Voice of Reason said: I’m not a civil servant. Just stuck in a doomed logic loop then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Steady Eddie said: Dead man’s shoes. It’s why the whole thing is dying on its arse. No experience of anything other than what they’ve been indoctrinated with by IOM Post. The quicker they realize that IOM Post is dying on its arse the better. But as you say if all they’re employing is people who have been there all their working lives what do they expect? They aren’t even going to understand why the world has changed around them until they’ve tried every other failed avenue to maintain the status quo of high wages and minimal effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Steady Eddie said: Just stuck in a doomed logic loop then. I do know of one sole trader ( and there are loads more of those, partnerships and SME’s ) who have taken on junior employees who have proven their worth and subsequently risen to very senior positions within the business. I am not sure why you are so cynical about this. Perhaps you never made the grade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: The CEO and the COO who it was reported way back who are on over £100k each. https://www.iompost.com/about/meet-the-team/ FFS how is a chief operating officer the CEO ??And who reported their salary, man in pub? Edited December 8, 2022 by Banker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Banker said: FFS how is a chief operating officer the CEO ??And who reported their salary, man in pub? No the papers from 2018 https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/politics/three-post-office-bosses-take-home-nearly-ps100000-each-224260 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: No the papers from 2018 https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/politics/three-post-office-bosses-take-home-nearly-ps100000-each-224260 But one has left & you still haven’t answered who are 2 CEOs other than try to say a COO is one !!! Obviously no idea what company structures mean 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Banker said: But one has left & you still haven’t answered who are 2 CEOs other than try to say a COO is one !!! Obviously no idea what company structures mean 😀 I know being presented with facts is confusing. But the three highest PO executives received an average of £96K a year in 2018. That’s a straight newspaper report. They still employ a CEO and COO and a CFO and if the average wage was £96K in 2018 it’s well over £100k now guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: I know being presented with facts is confusing. But the three highest PO executives received an average of £96K a year in 2018. That’s a straight newspaper report. They still employ a CEO and COO and a CFO and if the average wage was £96K in 2018 it’s well over £100k now guaranteed. But the facts are there’s only one CEO which apparently you’re too thick to grasp & seem to think that pay packages mean someone is a CEO !! you have still not answered who the 2 CEOs are! Not sure what salary you think CEO, COO & CFO of a £30m company should be paid . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Banker said: But the facts are there’s only one CEO which apparently you’re too thick to grasp & seem to think that pay packages mean someone is a CEO !! Do they really need a CEO and a COO to run a statutory board? The COO is probably running it and the CEO dealing with the unneeded political crap. It’s £200k PA of cost tied up. I’m not thick at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 45 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: the CEO dealing with the unneeded political crap. Stu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Peters Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Sorry, I'm eating popcorn... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anyone Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Very statesman like. Either engage or don’t bother. I think don’t bother is your best option and perhaps concentrate on politics rather than glib comments on here. And you forgot the chair ( if you were trying to be funny , which you’re not very ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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