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1 hour ago, Capt_Mainwaring said:

The trains have been around for 150 years. Has there ever been a 'real issue'? Is there one now?

but for the most part of that 150 years the railway hedge rows were trimmed and maintained with less chance of a real fire taking hold and the fire train itself was actually fit for purpose.  now of course neither is the case.

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9 minutes ago, WTF said:

but for the most part of that 150 years the railway hedge rows were trimmed and maintained with less chance of a real fire taking hold and the fire train itself was actually fit for purpose.  now of course neither is the case.

Get the point on the hedges.... what is it about the fire trains? (or is it lack of?)

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I've got a mate in the fire brigade in Suffolk. They've had some big crop fires there recently and last week he said he was pretty much put on suicide watch for the farmer. All his crops went up including a £250K Combine Harvester!

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1 hour ago, Capt_Mainwaring said:

Get the point on the hedges.... what is it about the fire trains? (or is it lack of?)

i don't think it as spec'd as it ought to be to deal with the larger fires we are getting due to lack of maintenance on the hedges.

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2 hours ago, Capt_Mainwaring said:

Yesterday's wasn't the train apparently, it was a hay bale that ignited. Does happen from time to time.

Hay bale fires only normally occur in damp hay it seems and there's hardly been the conditions for that.  It could be that a bale was ignited first by a passing spark and then it was some time before it was noticed when it spread to the surrounding stubble.

I wonder if the coal they are currently using (which clearly is dirtier than the normal 'steam coal') has also more of a tendency to throw out sparks or small burning coals and, coupled with the high temperatures and dry conditions, that is causing more fires in surrounding fields.

The latest fire has been extensive enough to stop the trains from running.

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2 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

 

I wonder if the coal they are currently using (which clearly is dirtier than the normal 'steam coal') has also more of a tendency to throw out sparks or small burning coals and, coupled with the high temperatures and dry conditions, that is causing more fires in surrounding fields.

Used to be "wrong kind of leaves on the line", now "wrong kind of coal in the train". 

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Why can't we use smokeless cobble, the steam fraternity across has started using the processed briquettes on traction engines and other steam devices and report that there is more ash and the fire needs a little more care but otherwise seems a practicable solution to harder to obtain coal supplies and it seems it is a less polluting fuel.

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