Villa’s revised T&Cs could kill live music

[manxman34]

On 7/14/2022 at 7:47 PM, Kopek said:

Where you going tonight then???

To tax my car

[The Voice of Reason]

On 7/15/2022 at 1:22 AM, Bombay Bad Boy said:

 

 

On 7/15/2022 at 1:22 AM, Bombay Bad Boy said:

 

To be honest I’ve always found it odd that people become “celebrities “ by playing records in a venue.

I had a mate who did a mobile disco thing ,playing at weddings etc.

That was his job but he wouldn’t have expected to have achieved any sort of stardom.

Its very odd.

[Declan]

Following on from this The Deep South Festival guy wrote …

 

 

“In a time when Music and contractual issues are making the general news here on the Isle of man, i often think that the general public often see the music promoter, as all being like Simon Cowell. 

The complexities' that goes into putting on a public music event and the financial margins these impose, never run true and more often than not, there will be something crop up, that just bites into the over all figure. 

So as the saying goes, use it or lose it, will always be at the forefront of putting on music on isle and all the complexities that this brings. 

I was fortunate enough to be at the China Crisis Gig on 22/7/2022 put on by the very energetic RS promotions.(what he has done single handedly to the entertainment industry, here on the isle of man, is something out of Disneyland)  But tonight was the China's night and after 40 years still professional personified. 

Bravo 10/10 if this was trip advisor

But this little rant is all about the small promoter, to which includes us. Yes there has been a world pandemic and yes Business acronym holds no prisoners. But naïve as i am would like to think we are all working for the greater good and all endearing to make life a little easier/better for ourselves, here on the wonderful little island!

Last week, as we have always done, tried to advertise our up coming gigs through flyers and was told we could not put them in Government buildings?

For those who know our music /mandate, will know we have been campaigning Mental Health awareness/ well being for the last 3-4 years as as we try to get people talking.

The world has changed. The Isle of Man has changed?

Thank you for supporting Live Music IOM”

tldr? Govt won’t allow his flyers in Government Buildings. 

[Passing Time]

3 hours ago, Declan said:

Following on from this The Deep South Festival guy wrote …

 

 

“In a time when Music and contractual issues are making the general news here on the Isle of man, i often think that the general public often see the music promoter, as all being like Simon Cowell. 

The complexities' that goes into putting on a public music event and the financial margins these impose, never run true and more often than not, there will be something crop up, that just bites into the over all figure. 

So as the saying goes, use it or lose it, will always be at the forefront of putting on music on isle and all the complexities that this brings. 

I was fortunate enough to be at the China Crisis Gig on 22/7/2022 put on by the very energetic RS promotions.(what he has done single handedly to the entertainment industry, here on the isle of man, is something out of Disneyland)  But tonight was the China's night and after 40 years still professional personified. 

Bravo 10/10 if this was trip advisor

But this little rant is all about the small promoter, to which includes us. Yes there has been a world pandemic and yes Business acronym holds no prisoners. But naïve as i am would like to think we are all working for the greater good and all endearing to make life a little easier/better for ourselves, here on the wonderful little island!

Last week, as we have always done, tried to advertise our up coming gigs through flyers and was told we could not put them in Government buildings?

For those who know our music /mandate, will know we have been campaigning Mental Health awareness/ well being for the last 3-4 years as as we try to get people talking.

The world has changed. The Isle of Man has changed?

Thank you for supporting Live Music IOM”

tldr? Govt won’t allow his flyers in Government Buildings. 

Government seem hell bent on ruining any and all small businesses

[Max Power]

3 hours ago, Declan said:

 

Last week, as we have always done, tried to advertise our up coming gigs through flyers and was told we could not put them in Government buildings?

 

Nearly a quarter of all wage earners work for government, their managers are a bunch of self important a$$holes who haven't a critical thinking mind amongst them, the attitude of these tin pot little squirts in 'senior' government positions makes me vomit!

[Declan]

On a positive note, though I spent the weekend at Dark Horse. Mostly local or local acts or at least local connected acts. Mostly originals from analogue synth electronica to rap to folk to many shades of rock and tonnes of dance music. 

Final act was Penelope Isles, whose key members are products of the local music scene, who’ve released two well received albums and play the major U.K. and European festivals. Played a fantastic set tweaked for the homecoming event. 
 

Anyway, Harry Radford,  of all people, said something interesting the previous evening fronting Call Me Armour, about how him and Jack of Penelope Isles had started in the same band when they were 15 playing the Traf and Bushy’s Basement Bar and Cornerhouse and name checked Traf-era bands like Suspect Package, Romero, Circus World. I wonder does that pathway exist for today’s 15 year olds? 

[2bees]

My lad is in a band, they can’t get gigs. It’s not my kind of music but they do have a following. 
 

[Declan]

6 minutes ago, 2bees said:

My lad is in a band, they can’t get gigs. It’s not my kind of music but they do have a following. 
 

That’s the worry. They need time in front of audiences to get comfortable in that environment. It’s not just the bands that aspire to record contracts that need it - function bands or cover bands in pizza places all need stage time. Even all the sound guys I know began in bands

[Sentience]

Remember, this is actually going back to what we once had with the Villa being run by IOMG.

Some awful decisions were made as to the choice of Manager/entertainment they (the GOV) decided we should be offered, and lots of it not covering itself financially.

Sad we no longer have entertainment specialists like Gordon Connolly or Mervin Stokes.

What does anyone in Government know about how to book attractive acts to the Island, or once again is it 'ASSUMED KNOWLEDGE'....oh hey anyone can do this, it's not exactly rocket science is it!