StCatherine Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I think today makes the beginning of the end for Alf. He was quite visibly outflanked by the backbenchers whom he so detests. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, Dirty Buggane said: I take it there is no way to shorten the tenure of this bellend (that he has shown himself to be). I for one have no confidence in this clown to run the bunch of nodding donkeys that masquerade as the government of the island. Again time after time we see the wrong person in charge, we all keep hoping time after time that this time it will be different. Sadly it seems the civil service are the people pulling the strings and all we have are weak willed oafs who are quite happy to go along with this, as long as they pick up there £60,000 odd and pension at the end. Time we had someone from London in to see how corrupt and sycophantic this little island has become. Born,bred and becoming ashamed to be Manx 13 House of Keys Members can vote him out. London is not the place you should be looking to for good governance. Look at what the last 12 years have done to the UK 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: Except we know he had to be forced out when it became obvious that there was no way he could survive in a ministerial position. He retrospectively claimed to have submitted his resignation straight away and been persuaded not to, but spent the time claiming he had done nothing wrong till he had to go. And the Tribunal Decision was pretty damning about him generally, not just his role at DHSC, so taking him back so quickly would show poor judgement on Cannan's part. Yep, perhaps we do know Walter had to be forced out but in the (small) minds of many, he is still held in highest esteem, tribunal description (a, 'Walter Mitty character') and its decision not withstanding. In a serious, committed government there should be no room made for a snivelling little vulnerable narcissist who is all mouth and no trousers once they've been sussed. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said: Now most us would have quite a long selection of words to apply to Ashford before 'integrity' came up. And I only got as far as C in the dictionary. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Sheldon said: I've always managed fine with just the one word, that word being "bell-end". (It counts as one with the hyphen, right?) Yeah, that's fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Tim wants an apology! https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/mhk-wants-apology-from-chief-minister-after-moaning-accusation/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, StCatherine said: I think today makes the beginning of the end for Alf. He was quite visibly outflanked by the backbenchers whom he so detests. Be very careful what you wish for 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Michelle Haywood, Tanya August-Hanson and Joney Faragher said that following an ‘outburst’ made by Rob Callister in the sitting of Tynwald this morning, which involved him accusing the department of bullying, they felt they had to comment. Their statement read: ‘In light of comments made about our conduct today in Tynwald Court, we feel we have now been forced into commenting publicly. ‘We wrote to the Chief Minister with our concerns on November 3 following a series of events within the Department of Health and Social Care. We had endeavoured to deal with matters within the political meetings within the Department, but when our approach proved impossible we felt we had no alternative but to inform the Chief Minister of our concerns. ‘We acted out of the wish to uphold standards and integrity. A culture of owning, and learning from, mistakes must start with us and be modelled by us or it means nothing. We started our tenure under the new minister being supportive and challenging, and remained so throughout. We consider it part of our role to provide political challenge. ‘We are grateful to the Chief Minister for seeking further information from those involved, and for taking decisive action. ‘We are sorry that Mr Callister feels that we have acted in any way unprofessionally throughout this episode. We have kept our counsel until now in order to allow all parties to maintain their dignity, but the outburst in Tynwald Court today levelled a number of charges at us which are unfounded and we wish to utterly refute. ‘We understand that this matter is now likely to be referred to the Tynwald Members Standards Committee. We will fully cooperate with any investigation carried out and we will make no further comment.’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Nobody is coming out of this smelling of roses. The whole lot of them need to grow up before they lose any more credibility 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said: so taking him back so quickly would show poor judgement on Cannan's part. The same judgement that gave Callister a job for 51 days presumably.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, quilp said: Yep, perhaps we do know Walter had to be forced out but in the (small) minds of many, he is still held in highest esteem, tribunal description (a, 'Walter Mitty character') and its decision not withstanding. In a serious, committed government there should be no room made for a snivelling little vulnerable narcissist who is all mouth and no trousers once they've been sussed. Cue TVOR for a spirited defence, denying that any of the above is true or happened....ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatnonsence Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, John Wright said: Michelle Haywood, Tanya August-Hanson and Joney Faragher said that following an ‘outburst’ made by Rob Callister in the sitting of Tynwald this morning, which involved him accusing the department of bullying, they felt they had to comment. Their statement read: ‘In light of comments made about our conduct today in Tynwald Court, we feel we have now been forced into commenting publicly. ‘We wrote to the Chief Minister with our concerns on November 3 following a series of events within the Department of Health and Social Care. We had endeavoured to deal with matters within the political meetings within the Department, but when our approach proved impossible we felt we had no alternative but to inform the Chief Minister of our concerns. ‘We acted out of the wish to uphold standards and integrity. A culture of owning, and learning from, mistakes must start with us and be modelled by us or it means nothing. We started our tenure under the new minister being supportive and challenging, and remained so throughout. We consider it part of our role to provide political challenge. ‘We are grateful to the Chief Minister for seeking further information from those involved, and for taking decisive action. ‘We are sorry that Mr Callister feels that we have acted in any way unprofessionally throughout this episode. We have kept our counsel until now in order to allow all parties to maintain their dignity, but the outburst in Tynwald Court today levelled a number of charges at us which are unfounded and we wish to utterly refute. ‘We understand that this matter is now likely to be referred to the Tynwald Members Standards Committee. We will fully cooperate with any investigation carried out and we will make no further comment.’ The evidence outlined by the back benchers was of unspecified unacceptable behaviour by Callister in his position as Minister which they eventually had to report to the Chief Minister. In turn the Chief Minister sought further information before acting decisively by removing the Minister At least two back benchers and an MLC would appear to support Mr Cannan’s actions who in turn tried to persevere Callister’s dignity by requesting his resignation. Mr Cannan by calling a back bencher a whiner did him no credit other than that I believe the Chief Minister acted in good faith when dealing with such a complex character as Rob Callister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) Few heads need banging together it would seem in the corridors of power. Starting with Rob Callisters. He really doesnt know when to shut it and lie low. One things for sure we would never have to wait for a point by point rebuttal from him !! He's only to happy to spill the alleged , by him , beans . Edited November 15, 2022 by Numbnuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 25 minutes ago, John Wright said: Be very careful what you wish for Quite so. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Just now, Whatnonsence said: The evidence outlined by the back benchers was of unspecified unacceptable behaviour by Callister in his position as Minister which they eventually had to report to the Chief Minister. In turn the Chief Minister sought further information before acting decisively by removing the Minister At least two back benchers and an MLC would appear to support Mr Cannan’s actions who in turn tried to persevere Callister’s dignity by requesting his resignation. Mr Cannan by calling a back bencher a whiner did him no credit other than that I believe the Chief Minister acted in good faith when dealing with such a complex character as Rob Callister He's not complex... He's a big baby who doesn't know when to stop squawking. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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