Moghrey Mie Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 It would be much easier to collect data if people had to inform government that they have arrived here and when they intend to leave. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 hours ago, english zloty said: Would be interested to know how many of the 35% were NI holiday CS on relocation packages. 😁😂 it must be costing a fortune and if they get away with removing work permits just watch the rates of pay in some sectors fall , we would be better off investing in training young locals for trades and future employment opportunities as well as making it easier to get a foot on the housing ladder , kids feel at present there is no future for them here ! o'h just put a few hundred thousand subsidy into building luxury apartments for developers , don't think thats the answer ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Omobono said: o'h just put a few hundred thousand subsidy into building luxury apartments for developers , don't think thats the answer ! That will suit the middle and upper management and the likes but what’s not getting addressed is who’s going to serve and feed all this bigger earners in restaurants ,coffee shops and similar. Who can afford to come and live here in that sort of group? . Talk about a two tier society . It’s sad that powers that be seem oblivious of the need of the ordinary working people. Edited November 6, 2023 by Numbnuts 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Jersey have similar issues with expanding government jobs, easy when not your money https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2023/11/06/when-will-government-stop-creating-more-jobs/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 17 hours ago, Numbnuts said: That will suit the middle and upper management and the likes but what’s not getting addressed is who’s going to serve and feed all this bigger earners in restaurants ,coffee shops and similar. Who can afford to come and live here in that sort of group? . Talk about a two tier society . It’s sad that powers that be seem oblivious of the need of the ordinary working people. Well, the powers that be are those that inhabit the upper earnings categories so the ordinary working people are really of no consequence, until as such time it hits them personally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Banker said: Jersey have similar issues with expanding government jobs, easy when not your money https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2023/11/06/when-will-government-stop-creating-more-jobs/ Indeed..... Quote Business leaders have raised concerns about higher government wages adding to inflationary pressures. Well, who would have thought, government fueling inflation? I have never believed any of the consumer/price data that IOMG spouts. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Todays nonsense brought to you via the NPM (MR) is that the Starship Enterprise has paused plans to temporarily suspending work permits, in order for a further consultation exercise. It wouldn’t matter how long the consultation exercise was, this policy is dead and at the first sign of unpopularity, and opposition, both IOMG and COMIN cave in, and more or less throw in the towel. If they retable the motion in 6 months time, the answer will probably be the same. The ironic thing is MHKs like Rob Callister obsessing with this area of concern, while making public pronouncements on the speed of the planning process, in his new role as head of the Planning Committee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, 2112 said: Todays nonsense brought to you via the NPM (MR) is that the Starship Enterprise has paused plans to temporarily suspending work permits, in order for a further consultation exercise. It wouldn’t matter how long the consultation exercise was, this policy is dead and at the first sign of unpopularity, and opposition, both IOMG and COMIN cave in, and more or less throw in the towel. If they retable the motion in 6 months time, the answer will probably be the same. The ironic thing is MHKs like Rob Callister obsessing with this area of concern, while making public pronouncements on the speed of the planning process, in his new role as head of the Planning Committee. I assumed the planning role was offered to win his vote for the work permits changes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, 2112 said: Todays nonsense brought to you via the NPM (MR) is that the Starship Enterprise has paused plans to temporarily suspending work permits, in order for a further consultation exercise. It wouldn’t matter how long the consultation exercise was, this policy is dead and at the first sign of unpopularity, and opposition, both IOMG and COMIN cave in, and more or less throw in the towel. If they retable the motion in 6 months time, the answer will probably be the same. The ironic thing is MHKs like Rob Callister obsessing with this area of concern, while making public pronouncements on the speed of the planning process, in his new role as head of the Planning Committee. (Yet) another DFE cock-up. Cart before horse comes to mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 34 minutes ago, Twitch said: (Yet) another DFE cock-up. Cart before horse comes to mind. Yes, but these relaxing of the regulations, are what you could describe as ‘flagship’ policy. Maybe they could have put it to the vote, or was CM Cannan convinced that he didn’t have the votes? What makes another one think that the HoK, would vote it through in another 6, 9 or 12 months? After all the shit to his reputation that Rob Callister put up with, a humiliating climb down and public apology, and now he is publicly rehabilitated. The question would be whether Rob Callister would still vote for the temporary suspension of work permits, or has bringing him in back into the fold ensured his vote for IOMG proposed legislation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holte End Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 31 minutes ago, 2112 said: The question would be whether Rob Callister would still vote for the temporary suspension of work permits Rob Callister could make a great speech against suspending Work permits then vote for suspending work permits, he has voted for a recommendation against a motion he was moving, so in affect voted against his own motion. so anything is possible from Mr Callister. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) If CM Cannan and the likes of Timbo the Starship Enterprise Minister can’t cajole or persuade other like minded people to their way of thinking, then I’m afraid their flagship policies are dead in the water. As has been proved, that new residents aren’t fully making the island their permanent home, just passing through for a few years, before on to bigger and better things either in the UK or further afield. ETA - after a consultation period and no doubt many views and opinions on this truly polarising flagship policy, it’s amazing that so far, no form of compromise solution can be found, which takes many views and opinions into account. Are COMIN and CM Cannan going to experience resistance and every turn, if so, they may as well call a general election, and another CM elected - though I don’t think they would be a solution. Edited November 14, 2023 by 2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Poor Alf is becoming increasingly rattled. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/clash-in-keys-over-plans-to-drill-for-gas/ He is even making an appearance at the eary stane public meeting! What's his interest in that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4mbi Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) Chris Thomas has lost the plot! How can he possibly claim to be acting in the best interests of the Island? 12 months of delay for what? Just comes across as being sore at being sacked for a 2nd time as a minister. The only way to settle the debate and establish FACTS is to allow the company that have the licence to drill the appraisal well. It of course will be done under current UK regulations, which there is precedent for already in Manx waters, and to question the credentials of the company, he fundamentally shows a willing misunderstanding of the process. He full well knows the company will outsource the well management and operations to internationally recognised, experienced and established companies. The gas either flows and the Island is rich or the gas doesn't flow, the well is plugged, the taxpayer is no worse off than it is now. Edited November 28, 2023 by b4mbi 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 For some people, the Cannan administration is a wet dream... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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