Non-Believer Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Sheldon said: An alternative suggestion, based on several interactions with the department in question, would be to sack the lot of them and replace them with a far smaller number of staff who possess a basic level of actual competence. It's like a great many depts, it's like dealing with sections staffed with unsupervised YTS. The answer is not another 54 of the fuckers. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 seems some of the 461 might be slaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cueey Lewis And The News Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, Sheldon said: An alternative suggestion, based on several interactions with the department in question, would be to sack the lot of them and replace them with a far smaller number of staff who possess a basic level of actual competence. We have a culture of incompetent bullies. So the answer is to employ 54 more incompetent bullies! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted December 14, 2023 Author Share Posted December 14, 2023 The 192-page document compiled by Grant Thornton has been published following calls in Tynwald. has anyone seen or checked that this is the original report and not one tweaked by the department. They have already had it for quite a while, any body checked the mededate if thats what it is called when the document was actually created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4mbi Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 4. Do Nothing The final option for OHR to consider is to not recruit any further staff, and not invest in technology. Furthermore, this option would represent OHR choosing to not implement the structural changes recommended as part of our review. In our view, the significant demand being placed on OHR services would mean that OHR would continue to struggle to meet service user needs and would continue to fail to deliver any strategic value as a business partner if this option was chosen. Not Recommended They missed option 5. Disband OHR and see if anyone notices any difference. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 30 minutes ago, b4mbi said: 4. Do Nothing The final option for OHR to consider is to not recruit any further staff, and not invest in technology. Furthermore, this option would represent OHR choosing to not implement the structural changes recommended as part of our review. In our view, the significant demand being placed on OHR services would mean that OHR would continue to struggle to meet service user needs and would continue to fail to deliver any strategic value as a business partner if this option was chosen. Not Recommended They missed option 5. Disband OHR and see if anyone notices any difference. Option 6: Outsource to chatgpt bots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 I work in the Engineering & Manufacturing sector. The DFE have just commissioned a third party external consultant from the UK to visit the Island and conduct a survey with local businesses. They are going to improve the way we do things following their findings. Really!!!!!! I have asked who instructed their appointment, how much it is likely to cost the Manx taxpayer and why there isn't anyone within our already swollen DFE who has the expertise to figure these things out. I won't receive an answer. I actually don't know what they do within the DFE and there are literally dozens of very highly paid Business Development Managers chugging gravy in there. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted December 14, 2023 Author Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) Another 54 and they will still fail to deliver any strategic value, except to empty the coffers of a further £3,000,00 per year and that is just their salaries. Do not forget the manager uplifts for being in charge of more people and a new CEO and NCEO for the offshoot section. Edited December 14, 2023 by Dirty Buggane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 I'd love to follow some of these managers around for a month and see what they actually do. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) Here's part of Stu's take on things from the Bishop vs Hooper thread.... Would it be unreasonable to suggest that the state of Govt that we actually have is the reason for these "relentless serial FOI requests", from concerned taxpayers? Edited December 14, 2023 by Non-Believer Extra bit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Yep, we live in a world where nobody wants to take responsibility for anything. Unless it's credit of course. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Non-Believer said: Here's part of Stu's take on things from the Bishop vs Hooper thread.... Would it be unreasonable to suggest that the state of Govt that we actually have is the reason for these "relentless serial FOI requests", from concerned taxpayers? Re your edit NB.... yes the irony of what Stu has said and the Grant Thornton report wasn't lost on me either. Edited December 14, 2023 by Andy Onchan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 33 minutes ago, Dirty Buggane said: Another 54 and they will still fail to deliver any strategic value, except to empty the coffers of a further £3,000,00 per year and that is just their salaries. Do not forget the manager uplifts for being in charge of more people and a new CEO and NCEO for the offshoot section. It should really be a very short debate: "None of this was in your budget, and even if you try to add it into next year there's no fucking money anyway!" 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Non-Believer said: It's like a great many depts, it's like dealing with sections staffed with unsupervised YTS. The answer is not another 54 of the fuckers. If they could just knock one or two thousand off the current public sector payroll then there might theoretically be money available to fund an increase in HR. Ironically, of course, there would then be no need for that increase. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 It seems this lot are not going to stop until the sums don't add up and we are screwed ! If that is not the case already ! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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