Banker Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 2 hours ago, 2112 said: The planning appeal relating to the proposed large housing development in Braddan, behind Braddan School by Hartford Homes, has resulted in Hartford Homes planning permission succeeding. Amongst the development is a proposed ‘neighbourhood centre’, whatever that is going to be, particularly as it is a short walk to the Roundhouse which Braddans new residents will be paying for. From the NPM - Appeals against more than 300 new homes being built in Braddan have been dismissed. Planning permission has now been given for the development. The application, which was first submitted by Hartford Homes in 2022, is for a plot of land between Braddan School and Douglas Rugby Club. It's hoping to build 320 new homes, a nursery, a primary school as well as a neighbourhood centre. Approval was then given for the scheme in January of this year. However, two appeals were submitted against the plans, including from Braddan Commissioners. They raised a number of concerns: Premature in advance of the forthcoming Strategic Plan review where Housing Policies should be examined in relation to The Need for Housing Principal of Development Traffic and Air Quality Landscape and loss of agricultural land Wildlife Design Ability to register with the local GP Practice Available places in the primary schools within the catchment area Flooding and Drainage Safe vehicular access via Braddan Bridge Impact on the properties of additional traffic using the Access Road during road closures Capability of surface water drainage system for proposed development Structure and stability of road to allow for centre turning line for traffic turning into proposed development. Active Travel Strategy Procedures at Planning Committee and Case Officers’ Report They were both dismissed though, and approval has now been given to the scheme with a number of conditions. You can see those conditions here and the planning proposals in full here. Posted above which is what the comments are about!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 On 7/11/2024 at 5:39 PM, TheTeapot said: Where are Hartford occupied in Castletown? That job near the airport? Its only 7 (seven) largish houses and they are only on initial groundworks there at the moment Thought they were starting building, however they’re also doing the bayqueen which only looks about 50% done but mostly sold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 28 minutes ago, Banker said: Thought they were starting building, however they’re also doing the bayqueen which only looks about 50% done but mostly sold Can't say I'm immediately a fan of the bay queen stuff Apparently the ARE adding swift bricks though, so I'm prepared to give them some credit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 According to Minister Tim No 2, the infrastructure subsidy scheme to ‘brownfield’ site development, is regarded as an investment, which clearly is now open to interpretation. To me if you are making an investment, you are buying a stake within an organisation, and the bigger the stake, the more influence you can implement. If IOMG/Starship Enterprise are investing, then surely they can have a say as to what gets built, eg, FTB, Social Housing etc? The idea of subsidies to developers to build high end luxury flats (apartments), without the inclusion of either social or FTB elements, is a rather sore point to many people. From the NPM - Using taxpayer money to help a private developer build luxury flats in Port Erin would generate a 'positive return on investment', according to the enterprise minister. Tim Johnston thinks the Island Infrastructure Scheme will create more jobs and higher employment too. However, he admits current unemployment figures are low and recruitment can be a struggle for the construction industry. Mr Johnston was asked why a recently released analysis of housing need on the Island makes no reference to 'luxury' flats: Share Share 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 8 hours ago, 2112 said: According to Minister Tim No 2, the infrastructure subsidy scheme to ‘brownfield’ site development, is regarded as an investment, which clearly is now open to interpretation. To me if you are making an investment, you are buying a stake within an organisation, and the bigger the stake, the more influence you can implement. If IOMG/Starship Enterprise are investing, then surely they can have a say as to what gets built, eg, FTB, Social Housing etc? The idea of subsidies to developers to build high end luxury flats (apartments), without the inclusion of either social or FTB elements, is a rather sore point to many people. From the NPM - Using taxpayer money to help a private developer build luxury flats in Port Erin would generate a 'positive return on investment', according to the enterprise minister. Tim Johnston thinks the Island Infrastructure Scheme will create more jobs and higher employment too. However, he admits current unemployment figures are low and recruitment can be a struggle for the construction industry. Mr Johnston was asked why a recently released analysis of housing need on the Island makes no reference to 'luxury' flats: Share Share he would be better using some of his money to train apprentices and young people for a career in the construction industry , it would make a massive difference to the local labour market government hardly employ any apprentices themselves these days which is a shame , if Tim is determined to grant fund construction companies then the payback should be you have to take a proportion of apprentices and trainees on , most local people could live with that 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 11 minutes ago, Omobono said: he would be better using some of his money to train apprentices and young people for a career in the construction industry , it would make a massive difference to the local labour market government hardly employ any apprentices themselves these days which is a shame , if Tim is determined to grant fund construction companies then the payback should be you have to take a proportion of apprentices and trainees on , most local people could live with that Government are stopping (may have already stopped) funding towards apprenticeships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 1 hour ago, Omobono said: he would be better using some of his money to train apprentices and young people for a career in the construction industry , it would make a massive difference to the local labour market government hardly employ any apprentices themselves these days which is a shame , if Tim is determined to grant fund construction companies then the payback should be you have to take a proportion of apprentices and trainees on , most local people could live with that Spot on. Chartered Housing Institute has just said the same to new new Labour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Alf May be having a dream everyone else is having nightmares. The sheer arrogance of the Minister of the Department of Enterprise is staggering this department seems to be the only one with funds to splash out they must have a secret money tree . There are no words to defend these actions. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) Seems that the plan to get a grip of the CS is going well. Bored, I just counted 48 new positions advertised on their HR FB page in the past 6 days. 😲 Edited July 16 by english zloty 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) In the good old days MHKs were successful businessmen / landowners who went into politics to line their own nests and look after their own people — which in most cases meant the Manx people. For the last thirty or forty years we've mostly been electing two types of people — A. Self-confident stupid people with expensive educations that got them qualified to do follow the rules in stable middle-class jobs like accountancy or education where they reached as far as they would ever go early, but didn't have the balls or ability to go further, nor the resilience to see out another decade. Or, B. Well-connected, slightly posh, self-confident stupid people who were set up in business, usually by their parents or spouse, failed and needed an escape bolt. There might be one or two genuine conviction politicians I've missed (Allinson? Faragher?) but you mostly vote for A. or B. and you therefore get what you deserve — otherwise unemployable bores who like to wear fancy dress and don't give a shit about the rest of us. Edited July 16 by Freggyragh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 (edited) Yes but having conviction (Allinson/Faragher) will not make them any more competent for the role. Edited July 17 by Dirty Buggane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Another scheme by the DoI has bitten the dust, with a very low success rate. From the NPM - The Department of Infrastructure has promised to return with new proposals after the mid-rent pilot scheme was pulled for failing to gain traction. The initiative was set up to help those saving a deposit to buy a property put money aside while also paying rent. Only 49 people used the scheme in the five years it's been running with only three people saving enough to put a deposit down as a result. Infrastructure Minister Tim Crookall said it was still taking tenants a long time to save enough money to get on the property ladder: It’s hardly surprising, as those saving for deposits, are finding their incomes squeezed and having less money for saving, and even less for spending in the local economy. It’s not helped by rising house prices/house prices beyond the reach of some people, coupled in some cases of large scale ‘investors’ purchasing housing stock, and then renting out properties at high rental prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 32 minutes ago, 2112 said: Another scheme by the DoI has bitten the dust, with a very low success rate. From the NPM - The Department of Infrastructure has promised to return with new proposals after the mid-rent pilot scheme was pulled for failing to gain traction. The initiative was set up to help those saving a deposit to buy a property put money aside while also paying rent. Only 49 people used the scheme in the five years it's been running with only three people saving enough to put a deposit down as a result. Infrastructure Minister Tim Crookall said it was still taking tenants a long time to save enough money to get on the property ladder: It’s hardly surprising, as those saving for deposits, are finding their incomes squeezed and having less money for saving, and even less for spending in the local economy. It’s not helped by rising house prices/house prices beyond the reach of some people, coupled in some cases of large scale ‘investors’ purchasing housing stock, and then renting out properties at high rental prices. Lots more social housing is required around the island, plenty of land available owned by government/local authorities. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWolf Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 He may be a good friendly bloke around Peel saying hello to everyone but as a national politician he’s just another government patsy, simply not up to the job, like so many others fraudulently taking 70k a year to do a job they not fit for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 11 hours ago, Freggyragh said: In the good old days MHKs were successful businessmen / landowners who went into politics to line their own nests and look after their own people — which in most cases meant the Manx people. For the last thirty or forty years we've mostly been electing two types of people — A. Self-confident stupid people with expensive educations that got them qualified to do follow the rules in stable middle-class jobs like accountancy or education where they reached as far as they would ever go early, but didn't have the balls or ability to go further, nor the resilience to see out another decade. Or, B. Well-connected, slightly posh, self-confident stupid people who were set up in business, usually by their parents or spouse, failed and needed an escape bolt. There might be one or two genuine conviction politicians I've missed (Allinson? Faragher?) but you mostly vote for A. or B. and you therefore get what you deserve — otherwise unemployable bores who like to wear fancy dress and don't give a shit about the rest of us. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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