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It's baffling that a drink driver, who not only failed to stop but was also driving poorly received a 12 month ban:

https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/nurse-caught-drink-driving-in-douglas-after-making-two-very-silly-decisions-654858

But a young lad who was committing no driving offenses is banned for 2 years:

https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/driver-21-had-bloodshot-eyes-and-smelled-of-cannabis-655102

 

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27 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

1. Thinking about the science and balancing the probability of making a successful prosecution, is it fair to say that the longer the period since your drink, the more you need a comclusive figure. I am meaning, if you were marginal it would be harder to make a case from a back calculation.

2. I know there are ways that the police can disprove the "I had a bottle of whisky when I got home" tale but I'm not sure how they do it.

1. As I say, not in the first hour after they stopped drinking. The science is pretty good. Maximum, well they aren’t looking at too long. Remember, police have to enter their home, chat, roadside test, possibly, arrest, take to HQ. The intoxyliser test will often be two, three hours post driving.

2. they check sinks, bins, cupboards. You say you’ve had half a bottle and the only one is 9/10 full, what do you think the court will conclude? Or I’ve drunk half a bottle, but the blood test and back analysis shows that couldn’t possibly be true.

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20 minutes ago, cissolt said:

It's baffling that a drink driver, who not only failed to stop but was also driving poorly received a 12 month ban:

https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/nurse-caught-drink-driving-in-douglas-after-making-two-very-silly-decisions-654858

But a young lad who was committing no driving offenses is banned for 2 years:

https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/driver-21-had-bloodshot-eyes-and-smelled-of-cannabis-655102

 

That’s because the drink driver was less than 50% over the limit and the disqualification band for that reading is 12 months. The minimum disqualification is 12 months.

The drug driver was convicted of a different offence. The minimum ban is 2 years for any drug drive over the limit. 

If the drink driver had been 1ug more it’d have been 2 years.

Here is the table. 30-50ug in breath is 1 year.

 

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20 minutes ago, John Wright said:

 

2. they check sinks, bins, cupboards. You say you’ve had half a bottle and the only one is 9/10 full, what do you think the court will conclude?

Are they allowed to do that? Surely the police can't just rock up at your house and start rooting through your things simply because they suspect you of a crime.

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27 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said:

Are they allowed to do that? Surely the police can't just rock up at your house and start rooting through your things simply because they suspect you of a crime.

Assuming they’ve rung the door bell, you’ve let them in, they’ve already felt the vehicle bonnet, it’s hot, you’re drunk, you mention post driving consumption. They’ve got right to arrest and search. 

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10 minutes ago, cissolt said:

It's baffling that a drink driver, who not only failed to stop but was also driving poorly received a 12 month ban:

https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/nurse-caught-drink-driving-in-douglas-after-making-two-very-silly-decisions-654858

But a young lad who was committing no driving offenses is banned for 2 years:

https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/driver-21-had-bloodshot-eyes-and-smelled-of-cannabis-655102

 

What's particularly ridiculous is that, as John says, the drink driving penalties are related to how much someone has consumed.  But for drug driving it's two years whether you are driving perfectly and are just over the limit.  And it's two years if you committed a host of driving offences and have enough drugs in you to knock out an army.

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1 hour ago, cissolt said:

It's baffling that a drink driver, who not only failed to stop but was also driving poorly received a 12 month ban:

https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/nurse-caught-drink-driving-in-douglas-after-making-two-very-silly-decisions-654858

But a young lad who was committing no driving offenses is banned for 2 years:

https://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/driver-21-had-bloodshot-eyes-and-smelled-of-cannabis-655102

 

There's at least two reasons for that anomaly

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24 minutes ago, John Wright said:

Assuming they’ve rung the door bell, you’ve let them in, they’ve already felt the vehicle bonnet, it’s hot, you’re drunk, you mention post driving consumption. They’ve got right to arrest and search. 

Search you or your house?

I don't drink let alone drink and drive, but reading between the lines of what you've said, the best thing you could do in that situation say nothing and close the door in their face - you'll probably end up getting arrested, still say nothing, wait until the next day, claim they intimidated you and then mention the post driving consumption.

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44 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

What's particularly ridiculous is that, as John says, the drink driving penalties are related to how much someone has consumed.  But for drug driving it's two years whether you are driving perfectly and are just over the limit.  And it's two years if you committed a host of driving offences and have enough drugs in you to knock out an army.

That’s not quite true. It’s a 2 year minimum here ( 1 year in UK ) and 5 year max. There’s no handy table for increased sentencing for increased amounts.  That’s because there’s no peer reviewed research on the correlation.

However I’ve seen 3 year bans with a high drug  reading and poor driving aggravating features.

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There seems to be no denial that he has consumed some alcohol before driving.

It is a case of russian roulette if you drink anything before you drive as it will depend on body make up, food consumption etc. as to how the alcohol affects you

Poor judgment at the very least getting behind the wheel

Fit to be Chief Minister?

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1 minute ago, RhumsaaIOM said:

There seems to be no denial that he has consumed some alcohol before driving.

But you legally can consume alcohol before driving provided that you consume less than the legal driving limit. 

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