Alf Cannan's I Have A Dream

[Kopek]

Then 'England' should not try to 'Lord' it over the rest of the United Kingdom!!! 😉

[The Voice of Reason]

21 minutes ago, Kopek said:

Then 'England' should not try to 'Lord' it over the rest of the United Kingdom!!! 😉

That’s a very strange thing to say
But it is indisputably the largest and most populous of the nations comprising the United Kingdom by some margin.

[A fool and his money.....]

1 hour ago, The Voice of Reason said:

It’s a little thing and maybe I shouldn’t really mention it but a lot of the time “England” is used as a term for the “ United Kingdom” which it shouldn’t really be.

And I say this as an English born person 

You're quite right too, although the more pertinent point is that it's rarely the political nirvana many people seem to think it is when drawing the comparison either. 

English politics is more often than not a poor example of governance, often the worst in the UK and not something we should be aspiring too. They're often outliers in UK or world terms.

To suggest the integrity of the ruling Tory party is anything better than our leaders is complete rubbish.

[Roger Mexico]

17 hours ago, english zloty said:

Away from the antics, did you see Alf got voted down over the HR report. That never happens. 

The extraordinary thing is that Christian had actually to bring a motion to force the publication of a report that had been promised 18 months ago.  But if you want to see what a dreadful mess the Government HR is in you only need to look at the reply to a Written Question a few days ago.  Wannenburgh had simply asked: When the annual report of the Public Services Commission will be published.

The Minister for the Cabinet Office (Ms Lord-Brennan): Due to changes in the membership of the Public Services Commission and senior officers, a review of the format and content of the Public Services Commission (PSC) Annual Reports was undertaken. On this basis work is underway to combine the 2022 and 2023 reports and the combined report will be finalised for approval by Public Services Commission in January 2024.

Now the Annual Report of the PSC is some that should be legally laid before Tynwald every year and has been for decades if you include the PSC's predecessors.  It basically tells you how many public employees there are and all the HR-related statistics and so on and what the HR Department has been doing in the last year.  Producing it is the most basic and regular activity that the department should do.

And it's normally published fairly soon after the end of the financial year.  So the one for 2020-21 was laid before Tynwald in July 2021.  And with previous such reports is available from here.

But that's the last one we've seen.  By now we should have had separate ones for 2021-22 and 2022-23.  The excuses given above are meaningless.  You don't change the format of such reports if possible because it makes year to year comparisons less useful.  Unless you're trying to hide stuff.  And the head of HR left 18 months ago and the Department should have been able to produce such reports on autopilot anyway.

These people are basically admitting they're either too incompetent to carry out even their most basic functions or too crooked to tell us what they do do.  Possibly both

Edited December 14, 2023 by Roger Mexico
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[Non-Believer]

10 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

The extraordinary thing is that Christian had actually to bring a motion to force the publication of a report that had been promised 18 months ago.  But if you want to see what a dreadful mess the Government HR is in you only need to look at the reply to a Written Question a few days ago.  Wannenburgh had simply asked: When the annual report of the Public Services Commission will be published.

The Minister for the Cabinet Office (Ms Lord-Brennan): Due to changes in the membership of the Public Services Commission and senior officers, a review of the format and content of the Public Services Commission (PSC) Annual Reports was undertaken. On this basis work is underway to combine the 2022 and 2023 reports and the combined report will be finalised for approval by Public Services Commission in January 2024.

Now the Annual Report of the PSC is some that should be legally laid before Tynwald every year and has been for decades if you include the PSC's predecessors.  It basically tells you how many public employees there are and all the HR-related statistics and so on and what the HR Department has been doing in the last year.  Producing it is the most basic and regular activity that the department should do.

And it's normally published fairly soon after the end of the financial year.  So the one for 2020-21 was laid before Tynwald in July 2021.  And with previous such reports is available from here.

But that's the last one we've seen.  By now we should have had separate ones for 2021-22 and 2022-23.  The excuses given above are meaningless.  You don't change the format of such reports if possible because it makes year to year comparisons less useful.  Unless you're trying to hide stuff.  And the head of HR left 18 months ago and the Department should have been able to produce such reports on autopilot anyway.

These people are basically admitting they're either too incompetent to carry out even their most basic functions or too crooked to tell us what they do do.  Possibly both

I remember hearing "a story" years ago of the regular removal of an annual HR Report from the due intended process which would have ended with said Report in front of Tynwald members.

Almost as though some people have something to hide....Although Stu Peters has been justifying the increase in Govt numbers on another thread, too.

Edited December 14, 2023 by Non-Believer
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[Sheldon]

6 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

These people are basically admitting they're either too incompetent to carry out even their most basic functions or too crooked to tell us what they do do.  Possibly both

And KLB just regurgitates the tosh she's given without challenge. Sadly, this hardly makes her unique among our elected / unelected representatives.

[woolley]

13 hours ago, A fool and his money..... said:

You're quite right too, although the more pertinent point is that it's rarely the political nirvana many people seem to think it is when drawing the comparison either. 

English politics is more often than not a poor example of governance, often the worst in the UK and not something we should be aspiring too. They're often outliers in UK or world terms.

To suggest the integrity of the ruling Tory party is anything better than our leaders is complete rubbish.

Yes, the English are rubbish. They just pay all the bills for benefits in the rest of the UK that they don't get.

[The Phantom]

1 hour ago, Non-Believer said:

Although Stu Peters has been justifying the increase in Govt numbers on another thread, too.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0t9CL3r2Vw/?igshid=ODhhZWM5NmIwOQ==

This is one way to reduce the Govt headcount...

[littlebushy]

And this is one way to increase it....

 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/ohr-report-recommends-creation-of-54-new-jobs-costing-3m/

[Zulu]

Government wanting to increase HR staff by 54. 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/ohr-report-recommends-creation-of-54-new-jobs-costing-3m/?fbclid=IwAR1tyDVsLTT2Gx1B3CNzIEd_Cz7KJybiox3QuhScDqACJdaRN2MR1QQR0-Y

[The Phantom]

4 minutes ago, littlebushy said:

And this is one way to increase it....

 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/ohr-report-recommends-creation-of-54-new-jobs-costing-3m/

 

3 minutes ago, Zulu said:

Government wanting to increase HR staff by 54. 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/ohr-report-recommends-creation-of-54-new-jobs-costing-3m/?fbclid=IwAR1tyDVsLTT2Gx1B3CNzIEd_Cz7KJybiox3QuhScDqACJdaRN2MR1QQR0-Y

AFUERA! 

Edited December 14, 2023 by The Phantom

[slinkydevil]

10 minutes ago, The Phantom said:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0t9CL3r2Vw/?igshid=ODhhZWM5NmIwOQ==

This is one way to reduce the Govt headcount...

Haha! That's quality. Like a Fast Show sketch but real 🤣

Scorchio!

Edited December 14, 2023 by slinkydevil

[The Phantom]

2 minutes ago, slinkydevil said:

Haha! That's quality. Like a Fast Show sketch but real 🤣

I think that perfectly encapsulates Argentina's current political situation.  Moreso even than ours! 

[Non-Believer]

Ah yes, we'll ask the opinion of those whose employment terms are benefitted by their having even more people working under them.

A mere £3M more for an extra 54 fat arses pushing pens, paperclips and paper in endless, self-justifying circles whilst our craven elected bend over backwards to accommodate them.

 

[Sheldon]

An alternative suggestion, based on several interactions with the department in question, would be to sack the lot of them and replace them with a far smaller number of staff who possess a basic level of actual competence.