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The worrying thing is that his perfectly sensible suggestion was voted down by a bunch of idiots whose only priority is to be seen to be doing something like asking a question, no matter how pointless it is.

Embarrasing 

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3 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Not strictly related to the Vacuous Plan (but neither are wallabies) but IOM Newspapers reported a rather telling incident in Tynwald this week:

Cannan's bid to cut the number of questions MHKs can ask is thwarted by his colleagues

The chief minister's bid to limit the number of questions politicians can ask in the House of Keys and Tynwald was voted down by his colleagues,

At this week's Tynwald sitting, Alfred Cannan put forward an amendment, moving that a member may table a maximum of four questions for oral answer for any sitting.

He said this should help members ‘consolidate their thoughts’ and ‘provide much greater direction for the house’, and would ‘arguably provide better value to the taxpayers’.

It would lead to a better quality of questions being delivered to government,’ Mr Cannan said.

‘It would ensure that those backbenchers with arguably important questions are not drowned out by multiple questions being put on that order paper.’

The amendment was however, voted against, with three for and 20 against in the Keys, and two for in the Legislative Council and seven against.

The interesting thing is that he lost so badly.  Clearly he can't just demand whatever he wants of the top of his head and expect obedience from many people.  Like his statement on Ranson, it shows just how bad he is at reading the room.

He could have had a quiet word with Mr Moorhouse.

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14 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said:

He could have had a quiet word with Mr Moorhouse.

But at the end of the newspaper article is:

"The most prolific question-asker in Tynwald is Arbory, Castletown and Malew MHK Jason Moorhouse.

For example, he asked seven questions in one House of Keys sitting in December.

He was the only member to ask any question."

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1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said:

Not strictly related to the Vacuous Plan (but neither are wallabies) but IOM Newspapers reported a rather telling incident in Tynwald this week:

Cannan's bid to cut the number of questions MHKs can ask is thwarted by his colleagues

The chief minister's bid to limit the number of questions politicians can ask in the House of Keys and Tynwald was voted down by his colleagues,

At this week's Tynwald sitting, Alfred Cannan put forward an amendment, moving that a member may table a maximum of four questions for oral answer for any sitting.

He said this should help members ‘consolidate their thoughts’ and ‘provide much greater direction for the house’, and would ‘arguably provide better value to the taxpayers’.

It would lead to a better quality of questions being delivered to government,’ Mr Cannan said.

‘It would ensure that those backbenchers with arguably important questions are not drowned out by multiple questions being put on that order paper.’

The amendment was however, voted against, with three for and 20 against in the Keys, and two for in the Legislative Council and seven against.

The interesting thing is that he lost so badly.  Clearly he can't just demand whatever he wants of the top of his head and expect obedience from many people.  Like his statement on Ranson, it shows just how bad he is at reading the room.

Are we to infer from this that Cannan has no confidence in MHKs (some of whom are members of  Comin) and are we also to infer (from the vote) that MHKs and MLCs have little or no confidence in Cannan.

 

Wouldn`t it be interesting for one to propose a vote of no confidence in the other.

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I've been reflecting on my most recent visit. Looking at the lie of the land, speaking to people, some who are running businesses. 

Many talk of the 'passive resistance' of government. Making things harder to do than they need to be is the last thing needed if the empty shop units and unbuilt plots are to thrive.

All needs to do one thing - change the mission statement of government, to one word- 'Enable'.

Whether it be planning, supporting start ups, improving connections - in fact anything, that should be what government does.

It would be easy for the thickest and most cussed civil servant to understand, and it would be easy to hold them account to.

 

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1 hour ago, Derek Flint said:

I've been reflecting on my most recent visit. Looking at the lie of the land, speaking to people, some who are running businesses. 

Many talk of the 'passive resistance' of government. Making things harder to do than they need to be is the last thing needed if the empty shop units and unbuilt plots are to thrive.

All needs to do one thing - change the mission statement of government, to one word- 'Enable'.

Whether it be planning, supporting start ups, improving connections - in fact anything, that should be what government does.

It would be easy for the thickest and most cussed civil servant to understand, and it would be easy to hold them account to.

 

Agree 100%. Said on here how I recently tried to get a little start up going, frustrated at every turn by various government departments. Finally threw in the towel when the landlord (who was the DoI) refused to help update the fire system to what I was told was needed by fire department. They’re now left with a unit that is pretty unusable for most other businesses.
 

No interest whatsoever in helping a start up from  any government department I had contact with.

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Todays little piece of nonsense is promoted by the CoC and the Starship Enterprise and is front page news in today’s Manx Independent. A proposed 6,000 homes called the Biosphere Inn super estate, a University and a green power plant, all estimated to cost iro £7bn. To be based by the Airport. It’s not proposed by Dandara but by the Sole Estate. I thought April 1 had flown by. 

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12 minutes ago, 2112 said:

Todays little piece of nonsense is promoted by the CoC and the Starship Enterprise and is front page news in today’s Manx Independent. A proposed 6,000 homes called the Biosphere Inn super estate, a University and a green power plant, all estimated to cost iro £7bn. To be based by the Airport. It’s not proposed by Dandara but by the Sole Estate. I thought April 1 had flown by. 

Who are Sole Estate, not that guy who was buying the Castle Mona? 

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On 5/20/2023 at 9:52 PM, Ativa said:

@forestboy

Do you want to contribute anymore than an emoji?

Probably not.

What do you expect when you’re just a dickhead troll who contributes nothing to this forum? It’s funny though how some of the dickhead trolls on here go into a meltdown over emojis. 

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21 minutes ago, 2112 said:

Todays little piece of nonsense is promoted by the CoC and the Starship Enterprise and is front page news in today’s Manx Independent. A proposed 6,000 homes called the Biosphere Inn super estate, a University and a green power plant, all estimated to cost iro £7bn. To be based by the Airport. It’s not proposed by Dandara but by the Sole Estate. I thought April 1 had flown by. 

It’s not been promoted by Coc or government that’s just your usual anti government bollocks . It’s his majesty the sole & it’s his usual fantasy 

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24 minutes ago, Banker said:

It’s not been promoted by Coc or government that’s just your usual anti government bollocks . It’s his majesty the sole & it’s his usual fantasy 

Why would IOM Newspapers promote this as a story if there wasn’t an element of truth? IOMG would love this story as it deflects from all the usual negative stories due to their incompetence, and this story promotes CM Cannans idea of growing the population. As well as a super estate, they want to add a rail line …………… 😂. This  idea will give the DOI many a wet dream. 
 

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