IOM government conference

[Roger Mexico]

5 hours ago, Omobono said:

I understand there were armed police present at the Government conference at the Comis hotel today  seen walking casually through the corridors ,

4 hours ago, A fool and his money..... said:

Making sure none of the government employees who were made to go escaped?

To be fair to the police they needed some protection.  With all those top civil servants around, you never know when you are going to be stabbed in the back.

Actually the government employees were the ones busily chasing the MHKs etc back into the Hall so it looked full.  As I pointed out earlier in the topic, it only holds 300 max and as two-thirds was taken up with round tables (8-9 max), I doubt it would have held 200 at most with every seat filled, which it never was.  And there was a pretty big turnout of MHKs etc, with even fabulous beasts such as Ann Corlett being seen.  Didn't see Watterson, Moorhouse or Callister.  Hooper was the only missing Minister.

(Crookall turned up late due an 'unexpected funeral' so Stu had to read out his speech with all the enthusiasm of a hostage video).

[Jarndyce]

44 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

And there was a pretty big turnout of MHKs etc, with even fabulous beasts such as Ann Corlett being seen

Photo or it didn’t happen!

[Kopek]

What is an '' unexpected '' funeral?

Did he think they had not really died???

[Moghrey Mie]

Financial Outlook, Public Services, The Role of Government, Safety at the Ports, Immigration, Renewable Energy,Tourism and Biosphere coming up today.

 

 

[Gladys]

6 hours ago, Kopek said:

What is an '' unexpected '' funeral?

Did he think they had not really died???

A surprise funeral?  Bit like a surprise 40th birthday party, but more sombre. 

[code99]

17 hours ago, Tinpot said:

That has always been the case, just badly communicated.

Has the IOMG ever had a strategic goal of growing the working population to 100,000 (according to the 2021 Census, the total economically active population in 2021 was 44,751) ?

New working residents would bring with them spouses and kids, and the Island’s total population would grow to…e.g. 150,000? That would mean new infrastructure builds like roads, schools and hospital(s). Has Cannan ever mentioned building tens of thousands of new houses to accommodate the new arrivals? Also, we would need a larger airport, more frequent boat sailings, etc and etc.

Presumably, Cannan and his Ministers are developing detailed plans for all of this and not just flights of fancy.

[Tinpot]

13 minutes ago, code99 said:

Has the IOMG ever had a strategic goal of growing the working population to 100,000 (according to the 2021 Census, the total economically active population in 2021 was 44,751) ?

New working residents would bring with them spouses and kids, and the Island’s total population would grow to…e.g. 150,000? That would mean new infrastructure builds like roads, schools and hospital(s). Has Cannan ever mentioned building tens of thousands of new houses to accommodate the new arrivals? Also, we would need a larger airport, more frequent boat sailings, etc and etc.

Presumably, Cannan and his Ministers are developing detailed plans for all of this and not just flights of fancy.

Deep breathe.  Breathe!

No, they have never had the aim of growing the working population to 100,000

The aim is to grow the working population by growing the total population to around 100,000, which obviously means some children coming here.  I would imagine that the aim is to grow the working population to somewhere between 50 and 55k.

[Andy Onchan]

3 minutes ago, code99 said:

Has the IOMG ever had a strategic goal of growing the working population to 100,000 (according to the 2021 Census, the total economically active population in 2021 was 44,751) ?

New working residents would bring with them spouses and kids, and the Island’s total population would grow to…e.g. 150,000? That would mean new infrastructure builds like roads, schools and hospital(s). Has Cannan ever mentioned building tens of thousands of new houses to accommodate the new arrivals? Also, we would need a larger airport, more frequent boat sailings, etc and etc.

Presumably, Cannan and his Ministers are developing detailed plans for all of this and not just flights of fancy.

But all of that was hinted at three administrations ago, albeit aspirational. Nothing has changed they're still chasing rainbows and now have no money for things like schools, dentists, sewerage, airport, seaport, health etc.

[code99]

27 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

I would imagine that the aim is to grow the working population to somewhere between 50 and 55k.

OK, I agree with you, but that is only our personal opinions. If the IOMG want to target an increase in the working population, then they have an obligation to clarify the number they aim to achieve. At the moment, all we have is political waffle without anything being quantified. 

No amount of 'communication experts' can communicate a policy that does not exist.

[Sentience]

11 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

Isn't that Bill Mummery?  Can't imagine why Manx Radio would want to feature his picture.

Bill is his own man and has many other interests as well as Manx Radio...clever too.

Could have been a great politician, for the people.

[Non-Believer]

11 hours ago, woolley said:

So this £10m? Cut some fat from the ridiculous bureaucracy or cut services to the public?

"Savings", going on previous attempts, will be a combination of rises in taxes and charges and cuts in services.

When you consider that they want to save just £10M and the PS wage bill is £600M+.....

[Tinpot]

58 minutes ago, Sentience said:

Could have been a great politician, for the people

There is absolutely no incentive for a successful person to want to be a politician.  None at all.

A drop in salary and having everything you do or try and do torn apart on social media by people who don’t have a clue what they are talking about, plus putting your personal life up for scrutiny.  Why would you?

20 years ago before social media people might have considered it, but maybe those who sit on Twitter, here and Facebook criticising EVERYTHING politicians do and even blaming them for things they have no input to need to take a look at themselves and wonder why good people don’t put themselves forward?

Edited yesterday at 10:25 AM by Tinpot

[Alanbellend]

5 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

There is absolutely no incentive for a successful person to want to be a politician.  None at all.

You’re safe on both counts then. Neither successful or incentivized.

[Non-Believer]

3 minutes ago, Tinpot said:

There is absolutely no incentive for a successful person to want to be a politician.  None at all.

A drop in salary and having everything you do or try and do torn apart on social media by people who don’t have a clue what they are talking about, plus putting your personal life up for scrutiny.  Why would you?

20 years ago before social media people might have considered it, but maybe those who sit on Twitter, here and Facebook criticising EVERYTHING politicians do and even blaming them for things they have no input to need to take a look at themselves and wonder why good people don’t put themselves forward?

A great many of those presently incumbent are now receiving a salary far in excess of anything they were previously earning though.

And it must also be remembered that many of their predecessors didn't exactly do much to cover their political "profession" in glory either, this has also had much influence on why "we are where we are".

The electorate have every right to be sceptical and cynical. SM just gives them a means to express it.

[Tinpot]

1 minute ago, Alanbellend said:

You’re safe on both counts then. Neither successful or incentivized.

You know nothing about me, but you actually highlight the problem we have in your attempt to be clever/funny.
 

Unsuccessful people who haven’t achieved much in the way of earning ability ARE incentivised to stand by the salary and pension.