IOM government conference

[Vaaish]

This appears within the IOMN report on Day 1 of the conference:

‘Mr Cannan said he would also ask the chief executive officer Andy Ralphs to include in his longer-term plans the options of reforming government departments and organisational structures’.

He may well ask, and he may well receive options, but will there be any tangible changes? I doubt it. We are 12 years on from the second report of the Scope & Structure of Government Committee, which had much of interest and relevance to say, swathes of which still apply. Nothing happened then for the same reason that nothing will happen now - the political community lacks the cojones to do it.

[Boo Gay'n]

1 hour ago, Non-Believer said:

"Savings", going on previous attempts, will be a combination of rises in taxes and charges and cuts in services.

When you consider that they want to save just £10M and the PS wage bill is £600M+.....

Niskanen, as summarised by Wikipedia:

According to the budget-maximizing model, rational bureaucrats will always and everywhere seek to increase their budgets in order to increase their own power, thereby contributing strongly to state growth and potentially reducing social efficiency.

[Albert Tatlock]

3 hours ago, Gladys said:

A surprise funeral?  Bit like a surprise 40th birthday party, but more sombre. 

I much prefer funerals to weddings...you get something to eat and drink and you don't need to bring a present. 

[Non-Believer]

14 minutes ago, Vaaish said:

Nothing happened then for the same reason that nothing will happen now - the political community lacks the cojones to do it.

Plus, there will doubtless be the unelected who will be doing their utmost to ensure that it's as difficult as possible to do it as well.

[Thomas Dalby]

2 hours ago, code99 said:

OK, I agree with you, but that is only our personal opinions. If the IOMG want to target an increase in the working population, then they have an obligation to clarify the number they aim to achieve. At the moment, all we have is political waffle without anything being quantified. 

No amount of 'communication experts' can communicate a policy that does not exist.

The Island Plan Economic Strategy Annual Report from Dec 2023 states an objective

”to secure 5,000 new jobs and a £10bn economy with infrastructure that can support 100,000 Island residents over the next fifteen years”.

The target is for 1,800 of those jobs to be created by the end of 2026, the balance by 2032. The target for new residents by the end of 2026 is 2,500

 

 

[Albert Tatlock]

2 minutes ago, Thomas Dalby said:

The Island Plan Economic Strategy Annual Report from Dec 2023 states an objective

”to secure 5,000 new jobs and a £10bn economy with infrastructure that can support 100,000 Island residents over the next fifteen years”.

The target is for 1,800 of those jobs to be created by the end of 2026, the balance by 2032. The target for new residents by the end of 2026 is 2,500

 

 

 

[piebaps]

Here's a good example

Executive Director of Quality, Safety & Engagement -  Salary £100k to £110k https://www.jobtrain.co.uk/iomgovjobs/Job/JobDetail?JobId=20134

Specialty doctor (Acute Adult Inpatient Psychiatry - Salary £45k to £84k

https://www.jobtrain.co.uk/iomgovjobs/Job/JobDetail?JobId=20175

 

If someone is looking for cuts, start with the Executive director (whatever that is).

At the bottom end, you could have two doctors for one director.

We've always said our mental health services are under pressure but I've never heard anyone saying that our Director of Quality Safety and Engagement is.

 

 

 

 

[joebean]

It appears to me that the Government Conference is simply another venue, outside of Tynwald, for politicians and senior civil servants to exercise their talent for meaningless waffle and BS. Saying something realistic, but challenging that offers the prospect of real change and improvement, accompanied by a series of measurable actions would be quite refreshing and inspiring. 
I’m not holding my breath. 

[Twitch]

50 minutes ago, Boo Gay'n said:

Niskanen, as summarised by Wikipedia:

According to the budget-maximizing model, rational bureaucrats will always and everywhere seek to increase their budgets in order to increase their own power, thereby contributing strongly to state growth and potentially reducing social efficiency.

Are you sure it was Niskanen who created the model and not the CEO of Digital Isle of Man?

[code99]

1 hour ago, Thomas Dalby said:

The Island Plan Economic Strategy Annual Report from Dec 2023 states an objective

”to secure 5,000 new jobs and a £10bn economy with infrastructure that can support 100,000 Island residents over the next fifteen years”.

The target is for 1,800 of those jobs to be created by the end of 2026, the balance by 2032. The target for new residents by the end of 2026 is 2,500

 

 

“5,000 new jobs” filled is not the same measure as 5,000 new workers (the Treasury has previously announced that about half of these new jobs have already been filled). These jobs are not necessarily being filled by new workers, e.g., some of them have likely been filled by people who are taking up second jobs…? The total IOM population is hardly growing, the number of young people living here is at best stagnant i.e., in addition to attracting new workers, the loss of our young people needs to be offset, etc.

What I mean by “political waffle” is that the IOMG has not said how many additional workers is targeting, as opposed to "new residents."

IMHO, the big problem with the IOMG’s infrastructure goal is that is non-specific – how many new roads, buses, hospital wards, etc does this represent and where does the IOMG get the money to pay for all of this? The growth of the economy to £10b (aka GDP which is a pretty spurious measure of the IOM economy) will not magically turn into tax revenue for the Treasury.

ETA: the IOMG needs to be clear whether new jobs will be in the private sector or in the public sector where it habitually adds a couple of hundred new jobs every year.

Edited 23 hours ago by code99

[cissolt]

borders-strategy-final-sep-24-compressed.pdf

New police job creation strategy published.  

Increased boat searches, got to stop all those guns and drugs from leaving the island.......anyone know how many weapons and drugs have been seized leaving the island?

 

[english zloty]

3 hours ago, Non-Believer said:

"Savings", going on previous attempts, will be a combination of rises in taxes and charges and cuts in services.

When you consider that they want to save just £10M and the PS wage bill is £600M+.....

Plus potentially paid for resignation. That’s always a favourite 

[english zloty]

2 hours ago, Vaaish said:

This appears within the IOMN report on Day 1 of the conference:

‘Mr Cannan said he would also ask the chief executive officer Andy Ralphs to include in his longer-term plans the options of reforming government departments and organisational structures’.

He may well ask, and he may well receive options, but will there be any tangible changes? I doubt it. We are 12 years on from the second report of the Scope & Structure of Government Committee, which had much of interest and relevance to say, swathes of which still apply. Nothing happened then for the same reason that nothing will happen now - the political community lacks the cojones to do it.

But.. but… it has changed. 
There are now more departments, divisions, offshoots than ever before = increased headcount = increased economically active = winning 🏆 

and so it goes. 
 

Andy is a dick, so he’s not going to do anything beyond increase his salary 

[Andy Onchan]

1 hour ago, piebaps said:

Here's a good example

Executive Director of Quality, Safety & Engagement -  Salary £100k to £110k https://www.jobtrain.co.uk/iomgovjobs/Job/JobDetail?JobId=20134

Specialty doctor (Acute Adult Inpatient Psychiatry - Salary £45k to £84k

https://www.jobtrain.co.uk/iomgovjobs/Job/JobDetail?JobId=20175

 

If someone is looking for cuts, start with the Executive director (whatever that is).

At the bottom end, you could have two doctors for one director.

We've always said our mental health services are under pressure but I've never heard anyone saying that our Director of Quality Safety and Engagement is.

 

 

 

 

What's the betting that this 6 month term position turns into at least a 5 year term or even permanent. Nice work if you can get it.

ETA: And there's no relocation package which might suggest that someone already on the Island has been earmarked (read promised) to fill the position.

Edited 23 hours ago by Andy Onchan

[english zloty]

2 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

What's the betting that this 6 month term position turns into at least a 5 year term or even permanent. Nice work if you can get it.

Bonus points if it goes to a mate 🤣
 

* I meant fully open and transparent recruitment process 

Edited 23 hours ago by english zloty
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