IOM government conference

[Andy Onchan]

1 minute ago, english zloty said:

Bonus points if it goes to a mate 🤣
 

* I meant fully open and transparent recruitment process 

See my edit above.

[Fred the shred]

The DOI need their funding cut they have overspent on Douglas prom, half inched money set aside for the horse trams not to mention Liverpool landing stage, posh cars to scare birds, no expense spared on other vehicles busses etc, the odd train engine etc etc.    This money could be redirected to the health service where it is needed.    DOI needs to be put on some kind of special measures and broken up it is far too cumbersome and obviously cannot cope with all the essential services under its control.   

[english zloty]

13 minutes ago, Fred the shred said:

The DOI need their funding cut they have overspent on Douglas prom, half inched money set aside for the horse trams not to mention Liverpool landing stage, posh cars to scare birds, no expense spared on other vehicles busses etc, the odd train engine etc etc.    This money could be redirected to the health service where it is needed.    DOI needs to be put on some kind of special measures and broken up it is far too cumbersome and obviously cannot cope with all the essential services under its control.   

Alf did all that when he was DOI minister. Ya know, before he put it in the safe pair of hands that is running it now 🤣🤣

[Banker]

14 minutes ago, Fred the shred said:

The DOI need their funding cut they have overspent on Douglas prom, half inched money set aside for the horse trams not to mention Liverpool landing stage, posh cars to scare birds, no expense spared on other vehicles busses etc, the odd train engine etc etc.    This money could be redirected to the health service where it is needed.    DOI needs to be put on some kind of special measures and broken up it is far too cumbersome and obviously cannot cope with all the essential services under its control.   

Cabinet office is the one, isn’t it approaching 400 with most executive directors etc.

[Boo Gay'n]

On 9/5/2024 at 8:15 PM, Roger Mexico said:

So it looks more like justification for filling Jurby with Scouse drug mules, though it's possible they are thinking of introducing their ridiculous border force proposals again, because travelling isn't irritating enough already.

 

Yes, they are!!

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/new-strategy-launched-to-protect-islands-borders/

[Andy Onchan]

29 minutes ago, Banker said:

Cabinet office is the one, isn’t it approaching 400 with most executive directors etc.

I pointed out four, maybe 5 years ago that the CO would be awash with director of this policy, director of that policy non-jobs and all on comparable remuneration packages not dissimilar to Westminster/Downing Street. Words fail.  

[Andy Onchan]

4 minutes ago, Boo Gay'n said:

Yes, they are!!

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/new-strategy-launched-to-protect-islands-borders/

So none of these protection measures (other than arming PCs) have been in operation before now? Shirley not?

[Banker]

1 hour ago, Andy Onchan said:

So none of these protection measures (other than arming PCs) have been in operation before now? Shirley not?

Facial recognition technology coming , Heading & co will be protesting against it, monitoring them!
https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/government-announces-facial-recognition-tech-for-ports/

[Omobono]

49 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

So none of these protection measures (other than arming PCs) have been in operation before now? Shirley not?

Not quite true   we had an active  Police ports unit back as far as the 60's Dudley Butt was one of those involved , they operated under the prevention of terrorism legislation and met every boat  and often aircraft , undesirables  were sent back on the next boat  and suspicious passengers stopped and searched  ,and because the unit had a very good relationship  (unlike modern policing) with the public  their intelligence and information gathering was excellent , 

every passenger coming in by private plane had to fill in a green card   , and all this information was collated  and shared with other police forces , 

but over the years  we have gotten lazy  , complacent , and allowed all kinds of rabble and on occasion undesirables to pitch up on the isle of man , watering down the work permits which also asked about  previous criminal  prosecutions  and  records also also added to the problem where quite frankly  we haven't a clue who is here anymore 

I support the home affairs minister in trying to tighten up   but is she looks,  apart from ANPR  there is existing legislation to do most of this NOW ! and under the maritime security Act (tynwald ) any police officer has the power to stop and search anyone  ,  anywhere in the ports 

[Jarndyce]

1 hour ago, Andy Onchan said:

I pointed out four, maybe 5 years ago that the CO would be awash with director of this policy, director of that policy non-jobs and all on comparable remuneration packages not dissimilar to Westminster/Downing Street.

Well done, well done - do you get extra points for that?

[Andy Onchan]

9 minutes ago, Omobono said:

Not quite true   we had an active  Police ports unit back as far as the 60's Dudley Butt was one of those involved , they operated under the prevention of terrorism legislation and met every boat  and often aircraft , undesirables  were sent back on the next boat  and suspicious passengers stopped and searched  ,and because the unit had a very good relationship  (unlike modern policing) with the public  their intelligence and information gathering was excellent , 

every passenger coming in by private plane had to fill in a green card   , and all this information was collated  and shared with other police forces , 

but over the years  we have gotten lazy  , complacent , and allowed all kinds of rabble and on occasion undesirables to pitch up on the isle of man , watering down the work permits which also asked about  previous criminal  prosecutions  and  records also also added to the problem where quite frankly  we haven't a clue who is here anymore 

I support the home affairs minister in trying to tighten up   but is she looks,  apart from ANPR  there is existing legislation to do most of this NOW ! and under the maritime security Act (tynwald ) any police officer has the power to stop and search anyone  ,  anywhere in the ports 

I was of course being facetious 😁!  

The ease at which some are able to get work permits is mind boggling really. 

[Andy Onchan]

Just now, Jarndyce said:

Well done, well done - do you get extra points for that?

Yes, a House Point if you please, sir.

[Vaaish]

1 hour ago, Banker said:

Facial recognition technology coming , Heading & co will be protesting against it, monitoring them!

That weapons grade nut job needs monitoring 24/7.

[littlebushy]

1 hour ago, Banker said:

Facial recognition technology coming , Heading & co will be protesting against it, monitoring them!
https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/government-announces-facial-recognition-tech-for-ports/

Justice for the papped?

[cissolt]

3 hours ago, Banker said:

Facial recognition technology coming , Heading & co will be protesting against it, monitoring them!
https://www.three.fm/news/isle-of-man-news/government-announces-facial-recognition-tech-for-ports/

Will this replace the current man in a van taking photos pretending it's ANPR?  Or will we just have lots of DOI vans sitting round with tiny digital cameras taking pictures then manually sorting through them?