Manx Resident Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Our third world tin-pot government are waiting to see what the UK do before coming forward with any cost of living plans. If the UK levy a windfall tax on energy companies to underpin their winter support packages then we will have even greater problems attracting workers to IOM with higher energy prices than UK, no housing, failing infrastructure and services etc, and a probability of rising taxes in future. The IOM Government Economic Strategy cannot succeed without factoring in the influence of the UK on our economy, whether that is adjustments to VAT rates, supply and transportation costs and so on. I just can’t see what the Conference will achieve discussing a strategy for which they have already paid £2m and which seems to be written in isolation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 In isolation from the KPMG recommendations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Lots of dick waving, boasting of success and attention seeking announcements will be made at this conference. Quite unnecessarily needed. When the likes of IOMNP Facebook page haven’t got a good word to say then it speaks volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 What success is there to boast about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, SleepyJoe said: What success is there to boast about? Not a lot. The ferry terminal is Alfs latest boast in the Liverpool echo. Glossing over the reasons for the massive overspend. I think the mhks and civil servants at this conference will be surprised at the real issues people are facing. Shame I can't attend to ask about the Manx care directors situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 What with Covid and now the current cost of living crisis the Manx Govt are facing the sort of challenges that they've never had to deal with before. Think back to the Gelling Corkill and Brown years, they had it easy in comparison, half a billion in VAT being dropped on the doorstep every year and only a few parochial issues to worry about. Has our standard of governance improved any to meet the challenges that it now faces? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: What with Covid and now the current cost of living crisis the Manx Govt are facing the sort of challenges that they've never had to deal with before. Think back to the Gelling Corkill and Brown years, they had it easy in comparison, half a billion in VAT being dropped on the doorstep every year and only a few parochial issues to worry about. Has our standard of governance improved any to meet the challenges that it now faces? Was saying that the other day. Their track record in the boom times has been absolutely shite so on what basis do they think they’ll be able to handle the worst economic crisis in the last 100 years in a non shite way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: Was saying that the other day. Their track record in the boom times has been absolutely shite so on what basis do they think they’ll be able to handle the worst economic crisis in the last 100 years in a non shite way? What suggestions to you have & how will they be paid for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 There is going to have to be a massive reset. If they don't do it themselves it will impose itself and it will be more painful for everybody. Tax is going to have to be looked at, including the wealthy and corporate tax, the old dogmas can no longer be sustained. Plus a complete clearout within Govt, to be leaner and more efficient. A more realistic view of what and where the Island is. The alternative is that it drags everybody under when it sinks. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 3 hours ago, cissolt said: Not a lot. The ferry terminal is Alfs latest boast in the Liverpool echo. Glossing over the reasons for the massive overspend. I think the mhks and civil servants at this conference will be surprised at the real issues people are facing. Shame I can't attend to ask about the Manx care directors situation. Who is going to tell them about the real issues out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 6 hours ago, Non-Believer said: There is going to have to be a massive reset. If they don't do it themselves it will impose itself and it will be more painful for everybody. There is a lot of sense in this post. It will all impose itself on them anyway as has been obvious since the very start of the whole pandemic situation. The world for a lot of people either collapsed then straight away or they threw trillions at it only for it to collapse two or so years later after everyone has been lulled into the false sense that government ‘cares’ about everyone and has an open chequebook to feed us cash to enable us to adjust. The US is one of the countries coming out of this strong because there was minimal government support and minimal shuts downs of the economy so everyone just had to get on with it as they all needed money to survive on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, Roxanne said: Ashford's going to email them. Yes, in very strong terms "it wasn't me". 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 48 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: The US is one of the countries coming out of this strong because there was minimal government support and minimal shuts downs of the economy so everyone just had to get on with it as they all needed money to survive on. Yes there was only $2.8 trillion in relief packages. How on earth did the US survive? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 8 hours ago, cissolt said: The ferry terminal is Alfs latest boast in the Liverpool echo. Glossing over the reasons for the massive overspend. Imagine how much good the overspend on 32 million would have done here, in fact imagine how much the overspend on 3.5 million could have done. If Alf is boasting about this he needs his head looking at in the current climate ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 On 9/5/2022 at 9:43 PM, asitis said: Imagine how much good the overspend on 32 million would have done here, in fact imagine how much the overspend on 3.5 million could have done. If Alf is boasting about this he needs his head looking at in the current climate ! Apparently there are still plenty of tickets left for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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