HeliX Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Happier diner said: Whilst I agree that it is clown planet, the highlighted sentence seems to conflict with itself Its worth noting that when the US had them an no one else did, they used them. Now everyone seems to have them. They haven't been used since. Whilst I would rather see no one have them, they are certainly a deterrent and I can't why why an intelitent person can't see that. The conditions around America using them were rather unique, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoops Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 13 hours ago, forestboy said: Have we not strayed from the original topic? Dunno, late into this, someone suggested a tactical nuclear strike on protesting teachers? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 34 minutes ago, HeliX said: The conditions around America using them were rather unique, though. What? They were losing the war against the Japanese so they decided to slaughter a few hundred thousand civilians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Happier diner said: What? They were losing the war against the Japanese so they decided to slaughter a few hundred thousand civilians. It was a World War, and the weapons had a yield of approximately 1/1000th of modern devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Happier diner said: What? They were losing the war against the Japanese so they decided to slaughter a few hundred thousand civilians. They were winning the war against the Japanese, but at incredible cost both for the Americans and especially the Japanese. In actual fact 'conventional' bombing was more deadly than the nuclear kind: The Operation Meetinghouse firebombing of Tokyo on the night of 9 March 1945 was the single deadliest air raid of World War II, greater than Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima, or Nagasaki as single events. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 Back on topic https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/govt-tries-to-keep-negotiations-with-unions-at-arms-length/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, HeliX said: It was a World War, and the weapons had a yield of approximately 1/1000th of modern devices. 29 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: They were winning the war against the Japanese, but at incredible cost both for the Americans and especially the Japanese. In actual fact 'conventional' bombing was more deadly than the nuclear kind: The Operation Meetinghouse firebombing of Tokyo on the night of 9 March 1945 was the single deadliest air raid of World War II, greater than Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima, or Nagasaki as single events. Oh. So I guess it was ok for them to do it then 🤣 I bet the Japanese were, and still are, really grateful. Lets hope Putin doesn't get the same idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, Happier diner said: Oh. So I guess it was ok for them to do it then 🤣 I bet the Japanese were, and still are, really grateful. Lets hope Putin doesn't get the same idea. I didn't say that - just pointing out the strange paradox that way the atomic bombs shocked Japan into surrender rather than fighting to the death may have saved millions of lives. And that we should never be complacent about 'conventional' weapons not being as deadly. Just the sort of thing people ought to learn in school in fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Roger Mexico said: I didn't say that - just pointing out the strange paradox that way the atomic bombs shocked Japan into surrender rather than fighting to the death may have saved millions of lives. And that we should never be complacent about 'conventional' weapons not being as deadly. Just the sort of thing people ought to learn in school in fact. Understood 🤙 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Happier diner said: Oh. So I guess it was ok for them to do it then 🤣 I bet the Japanese were, and still are, really grateful. Lets hope Putin doesn't get the same idea. I'm not suggesting it was OK, I'm suggesting it's completely incomparable to the current situation because of those factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 What is the truth about teachers' starting salaries and pay scales in the Isle of Man? Do they all get London Weighting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Moghrey Mie said: What is the truth about teachers' starting salaries and pay scales in the Isle of Man? Do they all get London Weighting? Starting £36500 !!! plus they all get outer London scales but still whining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meoir Shee Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, Banker said: Starting £36500 !!! plus they all get outer London scales but still whining Inaccurate yet again !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Meoir Shee said: Inaccurate yet again !!! He's only motivated by jealousy. Like the rest of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, Meoir Shee said: Inaccurate yet again !!! So what is accurate? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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