HeliX Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, P.K. said: I've no problem whatsoever with teachers voting with their feet. Because I know they're on the greenest grass possible. And probably so do they... That certainly explains why they're leaving in droves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, Asthehills said: So wrong. I earn more than any teacher in the island. I work as much as I want to. If I didn’t enjoy my job I could trim my hours right back, or get another job somewhere else. I am two weeks away from collecting my latest fully expenses company vehicle which if I had to buy it would cost around 3 years if an average teachers salary. Why would I be jealous? I just resent their whining and innocent kids missing out because their incessant moaning and foot stamping. Fair play, Alf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Newsdesk said: You just think it’s pointless as you aren’t getting your own way 😉 Just like it must be irking a lot of teachers that the public aren’t generally backing them either. You just got one pay increase and now you’re after another. That’s the long and short of it. There aren't many topics where I'm not on the opposite side to the general forum sentiment, I have no difficulties with that. But I do get sick of replying to the same handful of demonstrably false points over and over again. "Teachers get x number of days off" despite evidence to the contrary, "teachers do bla bla hours per week" despite evidence to the contrary, "the private sector is full of people doing 40-60h a week" despite evidence to the contrary. It's like groundhog day without any of the entertaining bits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, HeliX said: There aren't many topics where I'm not on the opposite side to the general forum sentiment, I have no difficulties with that. But I do get sick of replying to the same handful of demonstrably false points over and over again. "Teachers get x number of days off" despite evidence to the contrary, "teachers do bla bla hours per week" despite evidence to the contrary, "the private sector is full of people doing 40-60h a week" despite evidence to the contrary. It's like groundhog day without any of the entertaining bits. How many days off does a teacher get then, because I honestly can’t think of any other full time job with as many apart from guys who work away from home on oil fields or in the military Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Asthehills said: So wrong. I earn more than any teacher in the island. I work as much as I want to. If I didn’t enjoy my job I could trim my hours right back, or get another job somewhere else. I am two weeks away from collecting my latest fully expenses company vehicle which if I had to buy it would cost around 3 years if an average teachers salary. Why would I be jealous? I just resent their whining and innocent kids missing out because their incessant moaning and foot stamping. And yet you're spending double digit hours a week whinging about teachers on ManxForums 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Asthehills said: How many days off does a teacher get then, because I honestly can’t think of any other full time job with as many apart from guys who work away from home on oil fields or in the military Depends on the teacher. Unless you mean contracted days, but the contracts are clearly not designed to actually allow schools to run if teachers worked to them. As you can see quite readily by reading any of the Manx newspapers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, HeliX said: And yet you're spending double digit hours a week whinging about teachers on ManxForums 😂 They’re getting their moneys worth out of them at work. No wonder they have to work all the hours godsend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Asthehills said: How many days off does a teacher get then, because I honestly can’t think of any other full time job with as many apart from guys who work away from home on oil fields or in the military Well, look at the disruption that simply working to rule is causing. Clearly, a teacher’s contract doesn’t reflect the actual work they do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: Well, look at the disruption that simply working to rule is causing. Clearly, a teacher’s contract doesn’t reflect the actual work they do. What are you on about? There isn’t another profession where people get so much down time, and that should be reflected in the pay. Why would you expect to earn the same as someone who works far more days a year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxfisherman Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I think that people who go on and on about how much money they earn are tossers personally. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 55 minutes ago, Asthehills said: What are you on about? There isn’t another profession where people get so much down time, and that should be reflected in the pay. Why would you expect to earn the same as someone who works far more days a year? Teachers are causing significant disruption to students by working to rule. This would suggest that the “rule” is clearly not fit for purpose. You seem to be under the impression that a teacher clocks out in July every year and does nothing until September. That suggests a certain naivety about education really. And, yet again, the teachers aren’t paid to take this time off, their salary is just pro-ratad for it instead. I’m sure your boss would let you have some time off for no pay if you asked nicely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 hours ago, HeliX said: And yet you're spending double digit hours a week whinging about teachers on ManxForums 😂 And you who claim you’re not a teacher spends double that defending them 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Banker said: And you who claim you’re not a teacher spends double that defending them 😂 Put your money where your mouth is Banker. The offer is still there. 5k wager, I say I'm not a teacher. Your move - you'll dodge it again, mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 FFS O’Neills quoting Howie now!! https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/teaching-union-wants-manx-solution-to-manx-problems/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, Banker said: FFS O’Neills quoting Howie now!! https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/teaching-union-wants-manx-solution-to-manx-problems/ What a gob she has. Should piss off back to Ireland 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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