Asthehills Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: I was actually giving some thought to your circumstances. You have said that you earn a three figured salary and that your daughter is academically gifted with the opportunity for very good grades. You clearly are not a fan of the Islands High Schools so did you ever consider a private education for yoir daughter? In your position this is something I would certainly have pursued in order to ensure the best education possible. Well after the lockdowns they should be well experienced in dealing with this... Remember the teachers are not on strike they are simply working to rule which suggests that the schools are under resourced if they are relying on teachers undertaking additional work. She is flying at school. To be honest she hasn’t needed much teaching and we are lucky that she is gifted and extremely driven and self motivated. 90 percent of people I know who went to private school are dicks and she already is at a high level in a couple of sports and music through external activities through some of the superb organisations we have on island outside of the DESC so i really don’t see what she would have gained from going to King Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 minute ago, quilp said: They certainly appear to be in the UK... https://www.tes.com/magazine/news/general/teachers-using-food-banks-cost-living-crisis-hits Don't know about locally. You can be on twice a teachers salary and still need a food bank if you aren’t capable of budgeting properly or cutting your cloth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Asthehills said: You can be on twice a teachers salary and still need a food bank if you aren’t capable of budgeting properly or cutting your cloth. That may as be, I was simply correcting another cuntish falsehood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, Meoir Shee said: The Law Society is calling it a strike, I’d strongly suspect they have got the terminology right. Unless they were the IoM AGs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, Meoir Shee said: The Law Society is calling it a strike, I’d strongly suspect they have got the terminology right. Unless they were the IoM AGs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, quilp said: That may as be, I was simply correcting another cuntish falsehood. Fair enough, but fact is if teachers here are at the food bank then that is because they can’t manage a budget. Plenty of people manage on less. I would actually go as far as to say that anyone on a teachers wage who iis dependant on a food bank doesn’t have the necessary life skills to be teaching our kids. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavey Davey Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, Asthehills said: I would actually go as far as to say that anyone on a teachers wage who iis dependant on a food bank doesn’t have the necessary life skills to be teaching our kids. Agree with that. If you’re earning £25K a year and eating at the food bank you need to enroll on some sort of course to teach you to manage your finances. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 People on 25k needing foodbanks doesn't seem that outrageous when we have firms raking in billions in profits for years who then apparently need taxpayer bailouts. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsdesk Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, HeliX said: People on 25k needing foodbanks doesn't seem that outrageous when we have firms raking in billions in profits for years who then apparently need taxpayer bailouts. Bailouts were offered as the world shut down. Governments shut the world down. It was a political decision. Edited September 27, 2022 by Newsdesk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, Newsdesk said: Bailouts were offered as the world shut down. Governments shut the world down. It was a political decision. No bailouts before covid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lamb Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Asthehills said: Fair enough, but fact is if teachers here are at the food bank then that is because they can’t manage a budget. Plenty of people manage on less. I would actually go as far as to say that anyone on a teachers wage who iis dependant on a food bank doesn’t have the necessary life skills to be teaching our kids. The point is, they don't have to try to get by on these uncompetitive salaries. Younger ones are simply leaving - either for better pay and conditions elsewhere, or in to other sectors altogether. A newly qualified teacher switching to accountancy (for example) can expect to earn £45K in five or six years, and far more subsequently. Other professions are equally keen to recruit graduates. And they won't have to put up with the mindless hatred directed at teachers by sad individuals on social media. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, Harry Lamb said: The point is, they don't have to try to get by on these uncompetitive salaries. Younger ones are simply leaving - either for better pay and conditions elsewhere, or in to other sectors altogether. A newly qualified teacher switching to accountancy (for example) can expect to earn £45K in five or six years, and far more subsequently. Other professions are equally keen to recruit graduates. And they won't have to put up with the mindless hatred directed at teachers by sad individuals on social media. If you've done a good computer science degree, that could easily be your starting salary. Why would you go into teaching instead? The UK Government will give you 25k tax free if you go and train as a teacher with a computer science degree, or some other STEM subjects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavey Davey Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 31 minutes ago, Harry Lamb said: A newly qualified teacher switching to accountancy (for example) can expect to earn £45K in five or six years, and far more subsequently. Other professions are equally keen to recruit graduates. They should do it, it sounds like a good deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 9 hours ago, Harry Lamb said: The point is, they don't have to try to get by on these uncompetitive salaries. Younger ones are simply leaving - either for better pay and conditions elsewhere, or in to other sectors altogether. A newly qualified teacher switching to accountancy (for example) can expect to earn £45K in five or six years, and far more subsequently. Other professions are equally keen to recruit graduates. And they won't have to put up with the mindless hatred directed at teachers by sad individuals on social media. You have to work extremely hard & long hours training to be an accountant & very long hours during audit period of 4/5 months. Also you don’t get 13 weeks holidays or an index linked pension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lamb Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Banker said: You have to work extremely hard & long hours training to be an accountant & very long hours during audit period of 4/5 months. Also you don’t get 13 weeks holidays or an index linked pension About 17 hours a week of study, while learning on the job and being paid more than a newly qualified teacher who has studied for 4 years racking up thousands in debt? Easy to see why lots more competition now for trainee accountant jobs and a recruitment and retention problem for teachers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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