Meoir Shee Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, Asthehills said: Do they by any chance get a 60 minute lunch, and then two 15 minute breaks? If so that might explain any confusion. Hmmm, not sure 90 minute lunch breaks can be confused with 60 minutes plus 2x15 but fair enough. Quick google search: https://crhs.sch.im/pages/index/view/id/225/About Castle Rushen High School https://rgs.sch.im/pages/index/view/id/268/School Day https://snhs.sch.im/pages/index/view/id/39/Times of the School Day None of which suggest a 90 minute lunch break, but maybe Banker doesn’t regard 1.5 hours as 90 minutes. Maybe he’ll provide some evidence to back up his claim, otherwise it will be another of his made up facts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Meoir Shee said: Hmmm, not sure 90 minute lunch breaks can be confused with 60 minutes plus 2x15 but fair enough. Quick google search: https://crhs.sch.im/pages/index/view/id/225/About Castle Rushen High School https://rgs.sch.im/pages/index/view/id/268/School Day https://snhs.sch.im/pages/index/view/id/39/Times of the School Day None of which suggest a 90 minute lunch break, but maybe Banker doesn’t regard 1.5 hours as 90 minutes. Maybe he’ll provide some evidence to back up his claim, otherwise it will be another of his made up facts. So 90 minutes of break in less than 7 hours 😂. I think this might be the problem with teachers and their expectations. Many of them have only ever been students or teachers and so have no idea how the real world works. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Asthehills said: So 90 minutes of break in less than 7 hours 😂. I think this might be the problem with teachers and their expectations. Many of them have only ever been students or teachers and so have no idea how the real world works. Exactly so about 5.5 hours work a day with 13 weeks holidays, unlimited sickies, final salary pension & starting salary of £36.5k , it’s a tough gig😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meoir Shee Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Asthehills said: So 90 minutes of break in less than 7 hours 😂. I think this might be the problem with teachers and their expectations. Many of them have only ever been students or teachers and so have no idea how the real world works. So we can draw a line under this, could you just indicate which of the aforementioned schools have breaks that total your 90 minutes? Unless you are also making things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Just now, Banker said: Exactly so about 5.5 hours work a day with 13 weeks holidays, unlimited sickies, final salary pension & starting salary of £36.5k , it’s a tough gig😀 I am not sure that is entirely accurate to be honest, but even if you allow for 20 percent more Woking hours through a year than that, they are still greedy barstewards in the current climate and completely out of touch with reality 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Meoir Shee said: So we can draw a line under this, could you just indicate which of the aforementioned schools have breaks that total your 90 minutes? Unless you are also making things up. Ah ok . I just double checked and it only 75 minutes, or 80 minutes so two and a half times what most people get in an 8 hour day 😂 Edited November 3, 2022 by Asthehills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriT Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 25 minutes ago, Asthehills said: I am not sure that is entirely accurate to be honest, but even if you allow for 20 percent more Woking hours through a year than that, they are still greedy barstewards in the current climate and completely out of touch with reality At least you’ve found somebody to agree with you. What a rare event. At the end of the day the teachers at least deserve a pay rise over and above the CS who declared 6% today. It doesn’t really matter what hours they work as at least they work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 6 hours ago, BriT said: At least you’ve found somebody to agree with you. What a rare event. At the end of the day the teachers at least deserve a pay rise over and above the CS who declared 6% today. It doesn’t really matter what hours they work as at least they work. They have had a number of offers now that were accepted by two of the unions. There is one union still complaining. Does anyone have definite figures for what percentage of the actual teachers on island have voted for strike action? This one Union, that doesn’t represent all teachers, keeps going on a “x% of respondents” but that still doesn’t let us know how many have actually responded and what percentage of the workforce who will benefit it actually is. The teachers I know are happy with what has been offered and embarrassed by the current action. I haven’t seen them since this escalation was announced but based on recent conversations would expect they are embarrassed to be associated with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill1977 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 The morning break is non existent as you are merely getting wrapping up the last lesson and getting ready for the next one. It’s similar for lunch, you are lucky to get 30 minutes and regularly eat lunch whilst sorting emails and preparing for P5. That’s if you aren’t taking a lunchtime club, where in that case you don’t get a break at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bill1977 said: It’s similar for lunch, you are lucky to get 30 minutes and regularly eat lunch whilst sorting emails and preparing for P5. So exactly like my lunch break then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holte End Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 10 hours ago, Meoir Shee said: Hmmm, not sure 90 minute lunch breaks can be confused with 60 minutes plus 2x15 but fair enough. Quick google search: https://crhs.sch.im/pages/index/view/id/225/About Castle Rushen High School https://rgs.sch.im/pages/index/view/id/268/School Day https://snhs.sch.im/pages/index/view/id/39/Times of the School Day None of which suggest a 90 minute lunch break, but maybe Banker doesn’t regard 1.5 hours as 90 minutes. Maybe he’ll provide some evidence to back up his claim, otherwise it will be another of his made up facts. How many lessons are teachers contracted to teach each week. A school time table of lessons is meaningless if teachers only have 20 lessons a week. I worked twelve hours a days, on a rota of three days on and three days off, If I still had the weeks rota sheet, you would think we were working 120hrs a week without context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 24 minutes ago, Bill1977 said: The morning break is non existent as you are merely getting wrapping up the last lesson and getting ready for the next one. It’s similar for lunch, you are lucky to get 30 minutes and regularly eat lunch whilst sorting emails and preparing for P5. That’s if you aren’t taking a lunchtime club, where in that case you don’t get a break at all. You know that’s still more than lots of others get, and that it’s really not u common to eat lunch at your desk, or while checking emails, driving between jobs etc. I am not saying it’s right, but to day you are “lucky to get 30 minutes and regularly eat lunch whilst sorting emails and preparing for p5” really isn’t going to get much sympathy from people who only get that as their entitlement and then have all the issues you explain as well but who also earn less and work many more hours at all hours of the day and night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 14 hours ago, Asthehills said: Ah ok . I just double checked and it only 75 minutes, or 80 minutes so two and a half times what most people get in an 8 hour day 😂 Private sector employee and I get an hour break for lunch plus being office based often have periods talking to colleagues which you could fairly argue as breaks. DSE regulations also recommend frequent short breaks from using such equipment. I can also work flexibly so if I shorten my lunch break I can start or finish earlier. Sucks to be you! Suggest you go and renegotiate your terms and conditions of employment if they are so bad. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 18 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: Private sector employee and I get an hour break for lunch plus being office based often have periods talking to colleagues which you could fairly argue as breaks. DSE regulations also recommend frequent short breaks from using such equipment. I can also work flexibly so if I shorten my lunch break I can start or finish earlier. Sucks to be you! Suggest you go and renegotiate your terms and conditions of employment if they are so bad. I can do what I like these days. I am only stating my experiences of numerous workplaces over the last 30 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted November 4, 2022 Author Share Posted November 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: Private sector employee and I get an hour break for lunch plus being office based often have periods talking to colleagues which you could fairly argue as breaks. DSE regulations also recommend frequent short breaks from using such equipment. I can also work flexibly so if I shorten my lunch break I can start or finish earlier. Sucks to be you! Suggest you go and renegotiate your terms and conditions of employment if they are so bad. What you really need is the public sector flexible hours contract whereby you come in about 8am & then proceed to eat your breakfast whilst surfing internet & chatting to colleagues. About 9 you then start working , go out at lunchtime for 30 minutes & eat lunch at desk for 30 minutes & leave at 4 or accumulate hours as most do & get an extra 10 days holiday each year!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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