Please Sir can I have more!!

[Harry Lamb]

5 minutes ago, Meoir Shee said:

Especially Marie Curie, selfishly winning not one but two Nobel Prizes whilst teaching in Paris.   But hey-ho, we all love an anecdote.

Frederick Douglass, C.S. Lewis, the current Pope, Desmond Tutu - all teachers who had the sense to quit and find a less demanding role...

[Meoir Shee]

What about that Tolkien?  Hope he wasn’t writing those films during the taxpayers time whilst Professor of English at Oxford.  No way I’ll be buying any of those spin off ‘books of the film’ you see everywhere.  No talent anyway.

[Asthehills]

Comedy gold.

In the real world my daughter has an A level business studies teacher who has never worked anywhere but in a school and literally has no clue what he is doing .

He just points them to stuff am online and makes them watch the apprentice in lessons 😂

[Meoir Shee]

6 minutes ago, Asthehills said:

Comedy gold.

In the real world my daughter has an A level business studies teacher who has never worked anywhere but in a school and literally has no clue what he is doing .

He just points them to stuff am online and makes them watch the apprentice in lessons 😂

Complain to the school then.  In my experience, the majority of Business A level teachers across the Island are very good although I think two schools do collaborate as they struggle for numbers, maybe that is the problem?  Still on for an A though so not too bad.

[Asthehills]

1 minute ago, Meoir Shee said:

Complain to the school then.  In my experience, the majority of Business A level teachers across the Island are very good although I think two schools do collaborate as they struggle for numbers, maybe that is the problem?  Still on for an A though so not too bad.

Complain about what?

He is qualified as a business studies teacher and probably as good as the rest of them, but with no real world experience.

He certainly doesn’t know what it’s like to have 20 days holiday entitlement, work over Christmas, do 40 paid hours a week and unpaid over time and actually have to think about budgets and profit.

[Nellie]

8 minutes ago, Asthehills said:

Complain about what?

He is qualified as a business studies teacher and probably as good as the rest of them, but with no real world experience.

He certainly doesn’t know what it’s like to have 20 days holiday entitlement, work over Christmas, do 40 paid hours a week and unpaid over time and actually have to think about budgets and profit.

He sounds like he's probably one of St. Geraldine's case study's who also frequents the Food Bank because he doesn't know how to make £4k last for a whole month.

Edited December 9, 2022 by Nellie

[Meoir Shee]

19 minutes ago, Asthehills said:

Complain about what?

He is qualified as a business studies teacher and probably as good as the rest of them, but with no real world experience.

He certainly doesn’t know what it’s like to have 20 days holiday entitlement, work over Christmas, do 40 paid hours a week and unpaid over time and actually have to think about budgets and profit.

This “unpaid overtime” nonsense has been thrashed to death, please stop it.  Clearly teachers don’t have to think about profit, schools are not for profit organizations , I sincerely hope you realise that.  No real world experience?  That teacher could have children, a wife, elderly relatives, have travelled the world, have a mortgage, worked for several years, will inevitably have studied to degree level yet you claim “no real world experience”, please stop it.  “20 days holiday entitlement”, you know full well that 20 days is the absolute legal minimum.  “Budgets”, anyone who works in education gets budgets, or lack of, rammed down their throats every day.  “Work over Christmas”, how do you know?  I thought Banker was the stalker?  How do you know this teacher has “never worked anywhere but in a school”, that is very hard to believe.  Are you making things up?

I know the Christmas records come out every year but you really need to change yours.

 

 

[Asthehills]

6 minutes ago, Meoir Shee said:

This “unpaid overtime” nonsense has been thrashed to death, please stop it.  Clearly teachers don’t have to think about profit, schools are not for profit organizations , I sincerely hope you realise that.  No real world experience?  That teacher could have children, a wife, elderly relatives, have travelled the world, have a mortgage, worked for several years, will inevitably have studied to degree level yet you claim “no real world experience”, please stop it.  “20 days holiday entitlement”, you know full well that 20 days is the absolute legal minimum.  “Budgets”, anyone who works in education gets budgets, or lack of, rammed down their throats every day.  “Work over Christmas”, how do you know?  I thought Banker was the stalker?  How do you know this teacher has “never worked anywhere but in a school”, that is very hard to believe.  Are you making things up?

I know the Christmas records come out every year but you really need to change yours.

 

 

It would be useful if a business studies teacher actually had experience working for a business would it not?

If they actually understood capex, amortisation etc (he was asked a question about amortisation and apparently had to google it)

Unfortunately your belief that people don’t have the minimum of 20 days holiday just shows how out of touch you teachers are.  Most of us have to be with an employer for a decent period of time before we see any increase in that, likewise your obvious belief that people don’t work extra hours for no extra pay.

A high percentage of teachers have been to school, uni, then back to working in a school and that’s it.

Personally I would like to see all teachers aged 30 plus and with a shorter (and paid) qualification period where they learn the skills required to teach after a good few years of actual work experience.

I would much rather my kids were taught It by someone who had done a few years hands on experience in an actual business and then a 12 month course to convert their experience into something they could teach.

And don’t tell me 12 months isn’t enough time.  A three year degree could easily be compressed into 12 months if people actually did 40 hours a week 48 weeks a year.  That’s just another reason why people who have done school - uni - teaching, are out of touch with reality.

[Whiskey]

12 hours ago, Holte End said:

Isn't that why people become teachers. Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

Those who can’t teach misquote George Bernard Shaw. 

[Harry Lamb]

It's been difficult to attract and appoint quality teachers for some years, and the situation will continue to deteriorate until the profession is made more attractive. There are good teachers in our schools, but increasingly appointments are being made of the only candidate, or someone whose subject knowledge is limited. Teachers are also required to teach outside their specialism. Those posting that teachers are well paid, lazy, out of touch etc and simultaneously complaining that their children are not getting the best may wish to reflect on their argument. Similarly the idea that an able person educated to post graduate level would build a career in the 'real world' and the abandon it at 30 to go into teaching? Please!

[BriT]

13 hours ago, Asthehills said:

And don’t tell me 12 months isn’t enough time.  A three year degree could easily be compressed into 12 months if people actually did 40 hours a week 48 weeks a year.  That’s just another reason why people who have done school - uni - teaching, are out of touch with reality.

Says some bitter commentator with no degree 😂

[Meoir Shee]

12 hours ago, Asthehills said:

It would be useful if a business studies teacher actually had experience working for a business would it not?

If they actually understood capex, amortisation etc (he was asked a question about amortisation and apparently had to google it

First point, it would be useful if a history teacher was actually present at the Battle of Hastings would it not?  What about that Brian Cox guy on the TV, what does he know about space, he hasn’t even been.  Loser.

Second point.  A business teacher who doesn’t understand what capital expenditure is (no need to hide behind acronyms in an attempt to massage your own ego), I think you are making things up again.  Teacher (apparently) checks what a term means online, why is that a problem?  No wonder your expectations don’t match reality.  Does anyone ever ask you a question you don’t know the answer to?  Be careful, don’t tell another lie.  You have previously stated your daughter is predicted 4 A grades at A level yet her teachers are so terrible, why do you send her in?  Are you simply making things up?  Again.

[BriT]

1 minute ago, Meoir Shee said:

Are you simply making things up?  Again.

You got it. In one. No point in feeding the troll. 

[The Voice of Reason]

3 minutes ago, BriT said:

Says some bitter commentator with no degree 😂

As a non  bitter commentator with a degree I can say that if a year had been lopped off my three year course it wouldn’t have made it any more difficult or challenging.

 

[Banker]

43 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

As a non  bitter commentator with a degree I can say that if a year had been lopped off my three year course it wouldn’t have made it any more difficult or challenging.

 

But you wouldn’t have had about 20 weeks off during year!!