doc.fixit Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 But Labour don't seem to have any credible policies either. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, doc.fixit said: But Labour don't seem to have any credible policies either. Precisely, the door is wide open now for somebody to come in with some much-needed new thinking. Britain is royally fooked, the economy is in rags courtesy of covid, Ukraine and Brexit, even a press opinion from the US recently described Britain as now falling apart at the seams. The country needs some bright new ideas to deal with the new problems, not Brexit Little Englanders, Thatcher wannabees, Johnson clown show or Loony Left, and above all, some leadership. Blair got in 25 years ago by appealing to and dominating the centre ground, love him or loathe him. That centre ground is again there for the taking. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Non-Believer said: Precisely, the door is wide open now for somebody to come in with some much-needed new thinking. Britain is royally fooked, the economy is in rags courtesy of covid, Ukraine and Brexit, even a press opinion from the US recently described Britain as now falling apart at the seams. The country needs some bright new ideas to deal with the new problems, not Brexit Little Englanders, Thatcher wannabees, Johnson clown show or Loony Left, and above all, some leadership. Blair got in 25 years ago by appealing to and dominating the centre ground, love him or loathe him. That centre ground is again there for the taking. Gary Neville seems to be positioning himself for some sort of political career. Maybe he will be the saviour? With Beckham is Treasury and Giggs as minister for women and families 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 54 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Precisely, the door is wide open now for somebody to come in with some much-needed new thinking. Britain is royally fooked, the economy is in rags courtesy of covid, Ukraine and Brexit, even a press opinion from the US recently described Britain as now falling apart at the seams. The country needs some bright new ideas to deal with the new problems, not Brexit Little Englanders, Thatcher wannabees, Johnson clown show or Loony Left, and above all, some leadership. Blair got in 25 years ago by appealing to and dominating the centre ground, love him or loathe him. That centre ground is again there for the taking. Britain is now widely accepted to be an emerging markets nation by the capital markets. We are only 5 years from the Brexit vote and 2 years from it actually happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Would you mind explaining please? I haven't a clue what that means or its implications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, doc.fixit said: Would you mind explaining please? I haven't a clue what that means or its implications. https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/has-the-uk-economy-become-an-emerging-market-mini-budget/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, doc.fixit said: But Labour don't seem to have any credible policies either. Fair point - communication on vital issues of the UK economy & policy responses has been v. poor. Rachel Reeves has a plan but they won't tell us what it is Perhaps they've been caught on the hop a bit by the change in PM Anyway, we can see that they'll offer a new 'green' response to the challenges ahead - with concentration on fairness & working together for the common good rather than for the benefit of the wealth hoarding supporters of the Tory party nb. I think the LibDems are leap years ahead of Starmer on policy, & the case for a 'Brexit Upgrade' with some form of return to the single market will have enormous support 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyJoe Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, doc.fixit said: Would you mind explaining please? I haven't a clue what that means or its implications. UK has lowest growth in G7 since Brexit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, offshoremanxman said: Britain is now widely accepted to be an emerging markets nation by the capital markets. We are only 5 years from the Brexit vote and 2 years from it actually happening. From the very article that you posted...? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 5 hours ago, offshoremanxman said: https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/has-the-uk-economy-become-an-emerging-market-mini-budget/ Seems like a complex way of suggesting that no one actually knows what is going to happen but will clutch at straws and long winded exclamations to try and justify what they are doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshoremanxman Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 37 minutes ago, doc.fixit said: Seems like a complex way of suggesting that no one actually knows what is going to happen but will clutch at straws and long winded exclamations to try and justify what they are doing. It’s a way of explaining that Liz Truss needs to accept that she can’t go off with these random badly thought decisions as they will only create volatility because the UK isn’t the major player that it thinks it is anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) Talking to a union chap in the. pub last week who is suggesting that negotiations with the Civil Service could mean our MHK's get around a 6% pay rise this year, back dated to April. Anyone know if that is true ? On TV this morning RCN leader says the offer to Nurses of a one off payment to nurses equates to 79 p per week. I didn't hear what the percentage offer is. Can any of the MHKs give a good bed bath ? 😷😂 apart from Claire that is ? Edited October 6, 2022 by Apple smileys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Apple said: Talking to a union chap in the. pub last week who is suggesting that negotiations with the Civil Service could mean our MHK's get around a 6% pay rise this year, back dated to April. Anyone know if that is true ? Basic Tynwald Member pay is "calculated under a formula set out in the Members of Tynwald (Annual Sums) (Amendment) Order 2014 as amended in 2021 by the Members of Tynwald (Annual Sums)(Amendment) Order 2021 (SD 2021/0140). The formula is based on civil service pay". They're actually at spine point 39. So if the civil service get 6% (or 60%) so do Tynwald Members. All additional upgrades (eg for Ministers) are percentages of the basic, so they would be increased similarly. Edited October 6, 2022 by Roger Mexico Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 22 hours ago, SleepyJoe said: Fair point - communication on vital issues of the UK economy & policy responses has been v. poor. Rachel Reeves has a plan but they won't tell us what it is Anyway, we can see that they'll offer a new 'green' response to the challenges ahead - with concentration on fairness & working together for the common good rather than for the benefit of the wealth hoarding supporters of the Tory party nb. I think the LibDems are leap years ahead of Starmer on policy, & the case for a 'Brexit Upgrade' with some form of return to the single market will have enormous support I read some of Labour's "Stronger Together" stuff. Pretty decent and very broad brush which is only to be expected. If I was in the Labour Party I would be keeping my powder very dry indeed ie don't give the tories any leverage while they tear themselves apart is the only sensible option. When Thick Lizzy finished her "speech" the £ lost another percentage point and two year fixed rate mortgages hit 6%. She and Kamikwasi are totally to blame for more expensive mortgages but is there any mention of this in the UK right wing press which is to say pretty much all of it? Strangely not... @SleepyJoe what do you base this on? Thanks. "I think the LibDems are leap years ahead of Starmer on policy, & the case for a 'Brexit Upgrade' with some form of return to the single market will have enormous support" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 1 hour ago, P.K. said: When Thick Lizzy finished her "speech" the £ lost another percentage point and two year fixed rate mortgages hit 6%. She and Kamikwasi are totally to blame for more expensive mortgages but is there any mention of this in the UK right wing press which is to say pretty much all of it? Suggestions from city commentators on Sky News this morning that higher interest rates impacting mortgages may lead to a fall in house/property prices. Australia and NZ quoted as having already experienced this, NZ Central Bank in particular having already opted for a more aggressive rise in base rates in recent months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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