Banker Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 41 minutes ago, cissolt said: We are opting for the stick over carrot approach. 15 minute villages and electric buses. Plus lots of civil servants & banning fossil boilers years before UK without any real infrastructure around heat/air source heating 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Do Manx Utilities install electric vehicle charging points at domestic dwellings free of charge, like Jersey? It’s a start offering some form of incentives to encourage, but what will put potential users off is the electricity charges, potential increases in vehicle charges (to boost IOMG coffers) and then IOMG government not investing in infrastructure such as charging points. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 45 minutes ago, Banker said: Plus lots of civil servants & banning fossil boilers years before UK without any real infrastructure around heat/air source heating The race to net zero, and IOMGs desire to dick wave and boast how they are world leading. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 47 minutes ago, Banker said: Plus lots of civil servants & banning fossil boilers years before UK without any real infrastructure around heat/air source heating What real infrastructure do you need around air source heat pumps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Happier diner said: What real infrastructure do you need around air source heat pumps? A bigger power station to run them all? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Andy Onchan said: A bigger power station to run them all? How do you work that out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Happier diner said: How do you work that out? Banning fossil fuel boilers will mean householders will have to turn to an alternative, air source heat pumps seem to be the rage so the demand for 'lektrik will increase. Or have I got that wrong? And don't forget the extra demand for 'lektric vehicles. Edited September 1, 2023 by Andy Onchan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: Banning fossil fuel boilers will mean householders will have to turn to an alternative, air source heat pumps seem to be the rage so the demand for 'lektrik will increase. Or have I got that wrong? And don't forget the extra demand for 'lektric vehicles. The demand for electricity will go up but if you read the Governments future Energy report that is taken into consideration. I reckon there will be some local spots where they will have to beef up some of the cables/substations but in terms of overall use/generated capacity its not a major issue I don't think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 55 minutes ago, 2112 said: Do Manx Utilities install electric vehicle charging points at domestic dwellings free of charge, like Jersey? It’s a start offering some form of incentives to encourage, but what will put potential users off is the electricity charges, potential increases in vehicle charges (to boost IOMG coffers) and then IOMG government not investing in infrastructure such as charging points. Jersey gives £350 towards the cost of a charger at home. They are not free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Happier diner said: What real infrastructure do you need around air source heat pumps? Well in addition to what others have said there’s not enough trained plumbers/tradesmen to install them all. And the move to insist on complete new heating system for minor extensions is completely OTT. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
english zloty Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 3 hours ago, 2112 said: The race to net zero, and IOMGs desire to dick wave and boast how they are world leading. To see an example of how this works shops no longer allowed plastic bags have no means of return so are now giving them away in number. In turn they are appearing in the hedges and gutters of the Island. Win win 🤣🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Having just read the Courier regarding the installation of wind turbines have our Government completely lost its collective mind ? according to the article we don't know enough about the site, no studies have been commissioned , it won't produce any benefit to the consumer, it will trash the fauna and flora and damage Castletown. All this led by some middle aged hippy and her cohorts, so they can go to bed with a warm fuzzy feeling ! They'll have a warm fuzzy feeling when we are bankrupt and everyone who can will have left the island. To jump in like this is utter lunacy, have they learned nothing from the Liverpool debacle ? What happens to people we elect are they lobotomised ! 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 56 minutes ago, asitis said: Having just read the Courier regarding the installation of wind turbines have our Government completely lost its collective mind ? according to the article we don't know enough about the site, no studies have been commissioned , it won't produce any benefit to the consumer, it will trash the fauna and flora and damage Castletown. All this led by some middle aged hippy and her cohorts, so they can go to bed with a warm fuzzy feeling ! They'll have a warm fuzzy feeling when we are bankrupt and everyone who can will have left the island. To jump in like this is utter lunacy, have they learned nothing from the Liverpool debacle ? What happens to people we elect are they lobotomised ! Talking of wind turbines especially onshore, Jason Moorehouse Castletown, Arbory and Malew MHK is not very happy regarding communication of this scheme. I can’t fathom whether he is objecting or his constituents are objecting, or there is something that he is unhappy with? All these schemes are great in theory, but in true IOMG fashion, they aren’t practical or properly worked out. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Banker said: Well in addition to what others have said there’s not enough trained plumbers/tradesmen to install them all. And the move to insist on complete new heating system for minor extensions is completely OTT. What others have said isn't true You don't need a new heating system for extensions. You keep saying this. Its not true and never has been. Its only if your existing boiler is too small. They are not difficult to install. Only bit that needs special qualification over and above any other heating system is the piping of the refrigerant and that's not a big job. If there is work, tradesmen will reskill Lets stick to facts and not myths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah 01 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Happier diner said: What real infrastructure do you need around air source heat pumps? I despair! And for those who might be considering, wait until 'the utilities' sniff you out. Edited September 1, 2023 by Utah 01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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