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28 minutes ago, Wake Up Call said:

Driven by civil servants.

Majority of MHKs supporting Earystane?

Hahaha

How long will it be before Moorehouse or Glover or someone asks questions, particularly if one of their constituents have trouble with say …………. tv aerial reception due to the wind turbines, or complaints of the whirring of the blades, and background noise. I can see it happening. 

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2 hours ago, Fred the shred said:

They are forging ahead before any comprehensive investigation of any depth has taken place.   Typical just typical this madness will bankrupt the Isle of Man.

What comprehensive investigation? It's a hill that faces directly towards the prevailing wind direction. The surveys are to fine tune the positioning only.

Maybe some fact checking and common sense before ye post might be a good idea. 

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20 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

What comprehensive investigation? It's a hill that faces directly towards the prevailing wind direction. The surveys are to fine tune the positioning only.

Maybe some fact checking and common sense before ye post might be a good idea. 

He’s obviously a local who are very vocal on social media!! I’ve seen posts saying the puffins will be decimated, anyone seen any at earystane?

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50 minutes ago, 2112 said:

Hahaha

How long will it be before Moorehouse or Glover or someone asks questions, particularly if one of their constituents have trouble with say …………. tv aerial reception due to the wind turbines, or complaints of the whirring of the blades, and background noise. I can see it happening. 

They’ve done loads already - https://www.tynwald.org.im/questions. Fortunately the media were off over the summer…

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15 hours ago, 2112 said:

How long will it be before Moorehouse or Glover or someone asks questions, particularly if one of their constituents have trouble with say …………. tv aerial reception due to the wind turbines, or complaints of the whirring of the blades, and background noise. I can see it happening. 

Moorhouse has already asked eight Written Questions including the word "Earystane" in the last two months (and Watterson has asked one).

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19 hours ago, Fred the shred said:

They are forging ahead before any comprehensive investigation of any depth has taken place.   Typical just typical this madness will bankrupt the Isle of Man.

It's been decided we're getting windmills somewhere in the next 5 years.  The only question I can see is whether we get 5 at Earystane or 10 at Druidale. I suspect there is a fairly long lead time on them and a lot of the planning stuff will also take forever, so it's a relatively good idea to start putting in some background work asap.  

As said elsewhere, whilst the Druidale option would be more expensive (numbers and location logistics) it would be best from a Nimby limitation angle.

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8 minutes ago, The Phantom said:

It's been decided we're getting windmills somewhere in the next 5 years.  The only question I can see is whether we get 5 at Earystane or 10 at Druidale. I suspect there is a fairly long lead time on them and a lot of the planning stuff will also take forever, so it's a relatively good idea to start putting in some background work asap.  

As said elsewhere, whilst the Druidale option would be more expensive (numbers and location logistics) it would be best from a Nimby limitation angle.

Druidale is less windy though.

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2 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

The 5 for Earystane is the proposal that doesnt require a new landing stage on Castletown beach right? That was the idea with 4? I did read the options but it was a while ago.

Same, I'd have to dig it out and read it again.  I'd have thought they'd still need the landing at Castletown for Earystane.  It would require less infrastructure generally however.  Druidale they'd basically need to build all new roads and everything associated; there is literally nothing there.  You'd think the better landing option for there would be Peel or Kirk Michael area. 

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A new landing stage well that won’t be cheap 🤣  it does not start or stop with the turbines there is a lot more to take into consideration but heigh Ho there is no shortage of money when there is a plan.    It would be interesting to know how much this whole venture is going to cost when all the interstructure , installation etc is added up I bet the 42  million minus however much has been spent already will be well short of the  amount needed for this cunning stunt.    There have already been a team of experts giving a report on the proposed sites ching , ching.

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@TheTeapot

https://www.manxutilities.im/media/2684/transition-decision-making-002-onshore-wind-site-selection.pdf

Castletown landing for Earystane it seems. 

Druidale, it suggests they could use Douglas.  I suppose it is Druidale/Sulby so, the infrastructure up to Sulby Reservoir area at least would useable and were likely cleared for heavy machinery for the Reservoir work. 

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Cheers. These bits

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Minor modifcations would be required to a roundabout on the route between Castletown and the site to accommodate the vehicles used to transfer wind-turbines. It was noted that 5MW turbines could be lifted to avoid this problem but due to the requirement for construction of a landing stage at Castletown, 5MW turbines may not be preferable. The modifications would be temporary with gravel increasing the size of the turning area.

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5MW turbines would have a rotor span of 63m and could not be delivered to the site without the construction of a dedicated landing at Castletown beach. This would need to remain in place for the full life-span of the windfarm and would likely have a high environmental impact if required.

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There are viable transportation routes from Castletown Beach via the Airport for 4.2MW turbines currently without any additional landing stage.

And on page 11 its got the options, 5x4.2 or 4x5, the latter is £10m more cos of the landing ramp. So it looks like they're not planning to do that, which is good, although they'll still have to do something for their 'beach landing' of optiion 1. 

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12 minutes ago, The Phantom said:

@TheTeapot

https://www.manxutilities.im/media/2684/transition-decision-making-002-onshore-wind-site-selection.pdf

Castletown landing for Earystane it seems. 

Druidale, it suggests they could use Douglas.  I suppose it is Druidale/Sulby so, the infrastructure up to Sulby Reservoir area at least would useable and were likely cleared for heavy machinery for the Reservoir work. 

Or, just have one massive turbine offshore, which would produce more power than the 5 or 10 put together. Put it off Peel and link into the Peel power station. 

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