2112 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 40 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: Population City of Durham: 48,069 Population City of Chester: 79,645 Population Isle of Man: 84,069 One of these numbers is bigger than the other two. These Cities are constituencies seats in the House of Commons, each having their own MP. Chester and Durham probably have their own Council as well, meanwhile for population of 84,069 the IOM is top heavy in both local and national political representation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Peters Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 minute ago, 2112 said: These Cities are constituencies seats in the House of Commons, each having their own MP. Chester and Durham probably have their own Council as well, meanwhile for population of 84,069 the IOM is top heavy in both local and national political representation. Yes, but UK has plenty of people ‘upstream’ of a town to deal with stuff - IOM doesn’t. Unless you want to make us part of the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, 2112 said: These Cities are constituencies seats in the House of Commons, each having their own MP. Chester and Durham probably have their own Council as well, meanwhile for population of 84,069 the IOM is top heavy in both local and national political representation. They also have their own council and a county council, before you get to Westminster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Hospitals and healthcare are run though NHS so there is upstream UK support Murderers etc. often get transferred to higher security facilites in the UK so there is upstream UK support We don't protect our own borders from foreign powers but have the UK armed services so there is upstream UK support. We don't train our own police officers but send them to colleges in the UK so there is upstream UK support We are a crown dependency, as the Common Purse changes proved not so long ago, they allow some freedoms on sufference but if we ever got too big for our boots (and Labour will likely be taking a close look at it after the next gernal election) there is not a damned thing we can do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, Stu Peters said: Yes, but UK has plenty of people ‘upstream’ of a town to deal with stuff - IOM doesn’t. Unless you want to make us part of the UK. There are plenty of forgotten towns in the UK, many with one MP. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 All this talk of sizes of Uk towns etc is totally irrelevant, what we need to know is what’s happening to the £50m climate change funds? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 I am inclined to object to absolutely everything the climate people have to say about the Isle of Man while I can look out to sea and see hundreds of wind turbines, and there are none here. Sort that first, show you mean what you say, or everything else is signalling bullshit.. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Perhaps we can use some of climate funds to buy shares in Crogga gas field 😀 https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/company-appointed-to-drill-at-crogga-gas-field/ 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 15 hours ago, CallMeCurious said: Hospitals and healthcare are run though NHS so there is upstream UK support Murderers etc. often get transferred to higher security facilites in the UK so there is upstream UK support We don't protect our own borders from foreign powers but have the UK armed services so there is upstream UK support. We don't train our own police officers but send them to colleges in the UK so there is upstream UK support We are a crown dependency, as the Common Purse changes proved not so long ago, they allow some freedoms on sufference but if we ever got too big for our boots (and Labour will likely be taking a close look at it after the next gernal election) there is not a damned thing we can do about it. Yes, but accessing that support has to be administered from here, like uni students, patient referral and transfer, pridoner transfer, etc. Just because we access the UK for services does not mean that there is nothing done here by CS in that area. Not supporting the proliferation of the CS here, but as ever things aren't straightforward. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Banker said: what’s happening to the £50m climate change funds? Absolutely nothing useful. This government driven virtue signalling is getting tiresome and is massively detrimental to basically everything else. Whilst we in the West are worrying about spurious green targets and gender pronouns, China is taking over the world. The UK as a whole contributes about 2% of the global greenhouse gases. Even if they stopped completely (impossible) there would be absolutely no change to the outcome. Do you know who will contribute the vast majority of Greenhouse gases? Poor people in Asia; and given the choice between releasing a bit more carbon or their children not starving/not being educated/having an indoor toilet, I'm pretty certain no fucks will be given towards the Carbon emmisions. The best that can be done is trying to decrease developing countries' use of fossil fuels for energy by increasing their renewable generation. Aid/grants to them directly for this purpose and development of new, cheaper and more efficient renewable technologies would be the best way to do this. Or you could throw soup on some famous artwork. Edited January 16, 2023 by The Phantom 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Banker said: Perhaps we can use some of climate funds to buy shares in Crogga gas field 😀 https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/company-appointed-to-drill-at-crogga-gas-field/ So much for all that shite about a company taking all the risk and providing us loads of benefit. Turns out they've no money to do the job and want the public to take the risk. I'd gloat about calling it from the start but it's miserable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, HeliX said: So much for all that shite about a company taking all the risk and providing us loads of benefit. Turns out they've no money to do the job and want the public to take the risk. I'd gloat about calling it from the start but it's miserable. I thought they had funding, or were pretty close to securing it. Either that has fallen through, or cost have possibly massively increased. Perhaps their gender identity enforcement officer is really expensive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Just now, The Phantom said: I thought they had funding, or were pretty close to securing it. Either that has fallen through, or cost have possibly massively increased. Perhaps their gender identity enforcement officer is really expensive... Perhaps it was always a private firm trying to make a load of wedge at our expense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Peters Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 minute ago, HeliX said: Perhaps it was always a private firm trying to make a load of wedge at our expense. It was always going to need shareholder/investor funding, so this is hardly news. It's still not costing 'us' anything unless we choose to invest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Stu Peters said: It was always going to need shareholder/investor funding, so this is hardly news. It's still not costing 'us' anything unless we choose to invest. Giving away our national resources to a company that will have to bow to its shareholders in the first instance, and us as a very distant afterthought, is a cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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