Climate Change Progress Report

[Manx Bean]

On 10/7/2022 at 3:58 PM, Happier diner said:

Good job everyone doesn't think like you then or we wouldn't bother about anything.

But tell me I’m factually incorrect?

[Wavey Davey]

On 10/6/2022 at 11:14 AM, Moghrey Mie said:

https://www.tynwald.org.im/business/opqp/sittings/20212026/2022-GD-0056.pdf

 

Going to Tynwald later this month.

A blank sheet of paper looking at performance so far.

[Moghrey Mie]

4 hours ago, Wavey Davey said:

A blank sheet of paper looking at performance so far.

Don't forget the People's Wood.

 

4 hours ago, Wavey Davey said:

A blank sheet of paper looking at performance so far.

 

[0bserver]

I'm not sure why we even need this update. It must have been solved... those random kids have stopped protesting outside too! It's all sorted. 

[Phillip Dearden]

On 10/6/2022 at 12:12 PM, Manx Bean said:

The truth is that if every single vehicle on the island was electric, if nobody ever lit a fire, we stopped cows from farting and closed Ronaldsway (almost there, granted)the island’s entire energy needs were met from wind or sea based generation, the impact globally would be so microscopic as to be a waste of time trying to even record it.

This is correct but isn't it also silly?

You could divide the Earth's population up into 85k units and if each one concluded they were not big enough to matter and so continued to pollute and exploit then the planet becomes uninhabitable.

On the other hand each 85k unit could decide to do its bit and there might be a chance of sustainability?

 

[0bserver]

1 minute ago, Phillip Dearden said:

This is correct but isn't it also silly?

You could divide the Earth's population up into 85k units and if each one concluded they were not big enough to matter and so continued to pollute and exploit then the planet becomes uninhabitable.

On the other hand each 85k unit could decide to do its bit and there might be a chance of sustainability?

 

But the earth isn't divided into '85k units' so your point is also silly 

[Roger Mexico]

On 10/8/2022 at 9:35 AM, 2112 said:

There is a climate change conference at the Comis Hotel later this month, being plugged on Facebook. Lots of experts and know it alls, and politicos jumping on the eco bandwagon bound to attend. Professor Currant Bun, IOMG taxpayer funded expert in attendance as well. It doesn’t look like it’s a freebie, as they are charging for tickets, and it’s £28.50 for general plebs attending, so presumably it’s for the coffees, pastries and lunch. 

It actually looks quite interesting and seems to be mainly about energy according to description on the booking site:

Join us in discussing the energy transition & net zero emissions on the Isle of Man

For energy security & economic reasons, as well as climate commitments, there is a growing expectation of a relatively rapid transition away from traditional forms of power on the Isle of Man. The Energy & Sustainability Centre (ESC) has brought together practitioners from Denmark, Faroes and other islands who have developed strategies to achieve 100% renewable energy as early as 2030.

On the back of this, ESC is also building models & options to move the Isle of Man from its current dependence on fossil fuels to future self-sufficiency in low-carbon power. The work involves building models & simulations of wind & solar schemes, energy storage & electricity transmission. Future possibilities such as green hydrogen for transport & district heating systems are also being evaluated.

Together with a full line up of international & local speakers, the results will be presented at the Low-Carbon Island Conference on 27 October where there will be plenty of opportunity to ask questions & make your own suggestions.

Of course all that highlights is that the Government and MEA/MUA have done sod all to encourage a "relatively rapid transition away from traditional forms of power" over the last two decades and don't seem to have any plans to do so now.

[offshoremanxman]

2 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Of course all that highlights is that the Government and MEA/MUA have done sod all to encourage a "relatively rapid transition away from traditional forms of power" over the last two decades and don't seem to have any plans to do so now.

It will do sod all for another 20 years as well. All the budget is going on is civil servants to talk even more crap. There has not one meaningful thing been done yet despite all the persistent low level noise and virtue signaling.

[SleepyJoe]

6 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

It actually looks quite interesting and seems to be mainly about energy according to description on the booking site:

Join us in discussing the energy transition & net zero emissions on the Isle of Man

For energy security & economic reasons, as well as climate commitments, there is a growing expectation of a relatively rapid transition away from traditional forms of power on the Isle of Man. The Energy & Sustainability Centre (ESC) has brought together practitioners from Denmark, Faroes and other islands who have developed strategies to achieve 100% renewable energy as early as 2030.

On the back of this, ESC is also building models & options to move the Isle of Man from its current dependence on fossil fuels to future self-sufficiency in low-carbon power. The work involves building models & simulations of wind & solar schemes, energy storage & electricity transmission. Future possibilities such as green hydrogen for transport & district heating systems are also being evaluated.

Together with a full line up of international & local speakers, the results will be presented at the Low-Carbon Island Conference on 27 October where there will be plenty of opportunity to ask questions & make your own suggestions.

Of course all that highlights is that the Government and MEA/MUA have done sod all to encourage a "relatively rapid transition away from traditional forms of power" over the last two decades and don't seem to have any plans to do so now.

This is why we must have a Tynwald Sustainable Energy Committee now to ascertain both the immediate requirements and the public will, & to give government a great big kick in the pants

[offshoremanxman]

3 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said:

This is why we must have a Tynwald Sustainable Energy Committee now to ascertain both the immediate requirements and the public will, & to give government a great big kick in the pants

How many more committees do we need? Honestly this whole net zero and sustainability thing is just a premium employment scheme for bullshitting do-gooders. 

[2112]

15 hours ago, SleepyJoe said:

This is why we must have a Tynwald Sustainable Energy Committee now to ascertain both the immediate requirements and the public will, & to give government a great big kick in the pants

Is this in addition to the climate change transformation board? 

[Apple]

Well, there sorts the Andy Wint programme callers for every days show up till Christmas....(sigh)....

[SleepyJoe]

3 hours ago, 2112 said:

Is this in addition to the climate change transformation board? 

 

The Climate Change Transformation Board has little funding - perhaps £3m

Most of the Climate Response budget of £42m appears to be in departmental budgets

It is not there to give CoMin a great big kick in the pants, more of a much restricted sop from CoMin to public opinion

Edited October 10, 2022 by SleepyJoe

[2112]

56 minutes ago, SleepyJoe said:

 

The Climate Change Transformation Board has little funding - perhaps £3m

Most of the Climate Response budget of £42m appears to be in departmental budgets

It is not there to give CoMin a great big kick in the pants, more of a much restricted sop from CoMin to public opinion

If a Tynpotwald Select Committee or any other committee can’t hold IOMG to account then what chance has yet another committee? A committee will the evidence and an open goal to criticise, and end careers can’t get any success either. No killer instincts. Toothless? Spineless more like. 

[SleepyJoe]

Which Tynwald Select Committee is holding government to account on renewable energy generation?

Edited October 10, 2022 by SleepyJoe