Blade Runner Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Banker said: Well here’s a report on two https://www.offshore-energy.biz/ship-set-to-sail-on-worlds-first-zero-emissions-cruise-voyage-delivered/#:~:text=MSC Euribia is the final,systems and waste management handling https://www.offshore-energy.biz/mscs-2nd-eco-friendly-explora-cruise-ship-hits-construction-milestone/ More being built & delivered , perhaps you can do simple research before you make stupid statements, you’re Essex version of offshore Manx 😂 The current world fleet of cruise ships are not climate friendly and due to the long time it takes to pay back a £billion/ £multi million build cost they are not going to be scrapped any time soon. (30 + years life expectancy for a big Butlins on sea) Are you thick? ETA Don't answer that, there is no need. Edited August 14, 2023 by Blade Runner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 38 minutes ago, Blade Runner said: The current world fleet of cruise ships are not climate friendly and due to the long time it takes to pay back a £billion/ £multi million build cost they are not going to be scrapped any time soon. (30 + years life expectancy for a big Butlins on sea) Are you thick? ETA Don't answer that, there is no need. But you said there weren’t any green ships, you were proved wrong as normal!! I said old ships are similar to old cars for emission. You really are a thicko who’s probably been banned from Essex forums!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Moghrey Mie said: Yes I thought ORSTED (formerly DONG ENERGY) already had an option to build an offshore wind farm back in 2014 but it's not in IOM waters. https://www.gov.im/about-the-government/departments/infrastructure/harbours-information/territorial-seas/proposed-developments-in-uk-waters-which-may-impact-on-isle-of-man/walney-extension-offshore-wind-farm/ They had an agreement signed with the IOMG back in 2015 (it's within the 12 mile limit). I've always thought it very strange that we've heard so little since - including from those within government always banging on about their green credentials. Whether the continued grip on government policy by the MUA's gas beneficiaries is responsible I wouldn't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: They had an agreement signed with the IOMG back in 2015 (it's within the 12 mile limit). I've always thought it very strange that we've heard so little since - including from those within government always banging on about their green credentials. Whether the continued grip on government policy by the MUA's gas beneficiaries is responsible I wouldn't know. Yes That's correct. And if DONG/ORSTED have such a wealth of information why have we waited 8 years for any progress to be reported? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mann O Mann Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Manxman1234 said: Yet still encourage cruise ships to come here which are one of least green modes of transport, So you don’t want Tourists coming over on planes and increasing the carbon burn on the IOM while here either? Why don’t we put a stop to all travel , shut the world economy down and become good green Marxists . Just Stop Everything!!!! FFS 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mann O Mann Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Blade Runner said: Why not just someone like a MHK call the company installing offshore windfarms in the Irish sea and ask how much it would cost to put in an extra 10 for the IOM? For one they will not get the CFDs from the UK government which the offshore wind farms are dependant on . The windfarms lease the seabed from the UK Gov and in return the UK guarantee a minimum fixed price to the developer . The UK gov will currently not pay for CFDs for offshore windfarm in manx territorial waters . Oestad must be hoping / betting that the rules and regs change and the UK gov will change their policy and pay CFDs to windfarms outside UK waters . Without this happening The offshore Oestad wind farm will not happen . That is why they estimate 8 years in the hope that UK legislation changes . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Banker said: Well here’s a report on two https://www.offshore-energy.biz/ship-set-to-sail-on-worlds-first-zero-emissions-cruise-voyage-delivered/#:~:text=MSC Euribia is the final,systems and waste management handling https://www.offshore-energy.biz/mscs-2nd-eco-friendly-explora-cruise-ship-hits-construction-milestone/ More being built & delivered , perhaps you can do simple research before you make stupid statements, you’re Essex version of offshore Manx 😂 LNG is not climate friendly. No better than burning oil. Yes, less polluting but no better on CO2 emissions which is the title of the thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, Mann O Mann said: Marxists . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah 01 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, Blade Runner said: The current world fleet of cruise ships are not climate friendly Says who and with what provable scientific evidence aside from the false and fatuous myth around CO2? Edited August 15, 2023 by Utah 01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_ship_pollution_in_the_United_States 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 2 hours ago, quilp said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_ship_pollution_in_the_United_States Sulfur dioxide has a cooling effect on climate. The recent ban/restrictions on shipping have increased warming. Sulfur dioxide is however a significant source of air pollution (mostly separate issue to climate change) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 On 8/15/2023 at 12:24 PM, Utah 01 said: Says who and with what provable scientific evidence aside from the false and fatuous myth around CO2? https://time.com/6292927/imo-global-shipping-emissions-climate-deal/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 On 8/15/2023 at 3:43 PM, Mercenary said: Sulfur dioxide has a cooling effect on climate. The recent ban/restrictions on shipping have increased warming. Sulfur dioxide is however a significant source of air pollution (mostly separate issue to climate change) WTF is sulfur dioxide? You mean Sulphur Dioxide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Jersey offering big subsidies for electric vehicles etc, perhaps this would be better use of climate change funds here https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2023/08/30/grants-available-for-electric-cars-vans-mopeds-and-motorbikes-in-jersey/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cissolt Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, Banker said: Jersey offering big subsidies for electric vehicles etc, perhaps this would be better use of climate change funds here https://jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2023/08/30/grants-available-for-electric-cars-vans-mopeds-and-motorbikes-in-jersey/ We are opting for the stick over carrot approach. 15 minute villages and electric buses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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