Hospice

[Asthehills]

7 minutes ago, John Wright said:

Because there may be current government employees who would be a good fit.

Eh?

It’s not a job board for government employees.  It a list of government/civil service jobs that people can apply for

[Wavey Davey]

1 hour ago, Banker said:

It’s costing a lot of money to run & some people who can easily afford to pay were/are treating PTS as a free taxi to airport & hospital appointments 

But the charities used to provide it for free. Now Bus Vannin are doing it at a cost and cutting back on the people who actually need to be supported. So in effect the taxpayer cost has gone up and the service is much worse. A relative recently was told he had to get his own way to hospital whereas has previously been picked up by the transfer service. It’s completely stupid. 

[Omobono]

I have a feeling there may also be a tie up with governments pension scheme , where certain Hospice employees  can benefit ,   it would be a good question to ask who  other than those directly employed by central  Government  can benefit  form  the isle of Man government pension scheme , 

I know its often   quoted   as a Ponzie scheme , but in recent years I believe  a number of non mainline government employees have been encouraged to join  mainly  to  fund those already drawing their pension , at a recent conference the current Treasury minister said it was in good health , ,well that worries me !

[Nellie]

34 minutes ago, Wavey Davey said:

But the charities used to provide it for free. Now Bus Vannin are doing it at a cost and cutting back on the people who actually need to be supported. So in effect the taxpayer cost has gone up and the service is much worse. A relative recently was told he had to get his own way to hospital whereas has previously been picked up by the transfer service. It’s completely stupid. 

The Red Cross didn’t provide the PT service for free. It was a commercial contract with the DHSC. They lost it when Longworth and his minibuses came on the scene.

As John said, the eligibility criteria for free transport are being more strictly applied these days.

There is a charity (name escapes me) who provide a transfers to Nobles for people who don’t qualify for a free transfer but who don’t want to pay for a taxi. I think they expect a donation.

 

Edited October 6, 2022 by Nellie

[Gladys]

6 minutes ago, Nellie said:

The Red Cross didn’t provide the PT service for free. It was a commercial contract with the DHSC. They lost it when Longworth and his minibuses came on the scene.

As John said, the eligibility criteria for free transport are being more strictly applied these days.

There is a charity (name escapes me) who provide a transfers to Nobles for people who don’t qualify for a free transfer but who don’t want to pay for a taxi. I think they expect a donation.

 

Don't want to pay or can't pay? 

[Nellie]

2 minutes ago, Gladys said:

Don't want to pay or can't pay? 

More than likely a bit of both, although obviously the eligibility criteria should catch people who face genuine hardship. But no system will be perfect.

[WTF]

57 minutes ago, Nellie said:

 

As John said, the eligibility criteria for free transport are being more strictly applied these days.

 

 

why were they never applied correctly to begin with ?

[Wavey Davey]

1 hour ago, Nellie said:

The Red Cross didn’t provide the PT service for free. It was a commercial contract with the DHSC. They lost it when Longworth and his minibuses came on the scene.

Commercial contract is an assumption. It was a contract that covered their cost in providing vehicles and labour. It unlikely provided a degree of commercial profit.

[John Wright]

9 minutes ago, WTF said:

why were they never applied correctly to begin with ?

They’re out of date and, if strictly applied, discriminatory

[Apple]

The salary is not disclosed in the advert. Is it negotiable ? Does the applicant have to reside on Island ?

[2112]

3 hours ago, Asthehills said:

I didn’t realise it was a public service role.

I thought it was a charity role - third sector - no doubt highly paid. Long gone are the days of genuine charity supporters rattling the tin, in all weathers, giving their time freely for no reward. Sadly it’s the management which reap the rewards, the praise and the honours from HM The King. 
 

 

[Nellie]

24 minutes ago, Wavey Davey said:

Commercial contract is an assumption. It was a contract that covered their cost in providing vehicles and labour. It unlikely provided a degree of commercial profit.

It was a commercial arrangement. Whether the Red Cross priced it in such a way as to make a profit is immaterial. 

[Gladys]

3 minutes ago, 2112 said:

I thought it was a charity role - third sector - no doubt highly paid. Long gone are the days of genuine charity supporters rattling the tin, in all weathers, giving their time freely for no reward. Sadly it’s the management which reap the rewards, the praise and the honours from HM The King. 
 

 

It isn't about rattling tins, it is about running a highly specialised organisation staffed by paid employees and volunteers.  Would you really want to see it run by a WI volunteer? 

[Asthehills]

6 minutes ago, Gladys said:

It isn't about rattling tins, it is about running a highly specialised organisation staffed by paid employees and volunteers.  Would you really want to see it run by a WI volunteer? 

No, but why is it advertised as a government job?

[John Wright]

12 minutes ago, Asthehills said:

No, but why is it advertised as a government job?

It isn’t. It’s advertised as a hospice job on a government website.

I know it’s a fine distinction.