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23 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

The council have clearly not completed any critical thinking or problem solving with this change to collections.  Removing public bins is ridiculous and will only shift the problem elsewhere, whilst increasing problems through lack of public bins.  They really need to address the cause.  Christmas/New Year period should be interesting.

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1 hour ago, BriT said:

Brilliant so people come up with a solution to their council inflicted rubbish problem and they then remove rubbish bins in order to stop people of disposing of .. rubbish. 

At least those people made the effort to put their rubbish in a bin, and not fly-tip it. Horning states:

" and every effort is made to identify the household responsible." - which sounds like a threat. If he had said "every effort made to find the household and give them an extra bin", that would be more sensible.

People do not "generate rubbish" - they spend money. Just about everything that ends up in the bin originates in a purchase from a business. If everyone went extreme and reduced their expenditure to near-zero, Douglas Council would not be making much money from business rates.

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46 minutes ago, Hmmmm said:

The council have clearly not completed any critical thinking or problem solving with this change to collections.

They haven't allowed adequate time for increased recycling (to the level required by fortnightly bin collections) to embed itself into the public mindset and habit.

It's ok espousing Amadeus' and Horning's motherland as an example - but they've been doing it for years. We are somewhat "behind" in that respect, to include the amount of waste generated by commercial and retail. It will take the best part of a few years to adopt, which is considerably longer than a few weeks' notice from DBC.

But perhaps in the panic to reduce the charges from the EFW they've overlooked this...?

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2 minutes ago, Two-lane said:

At least those people made the effort to put their rubbish in a bin, and not fly-tip it. Horning states:

" and every effort is made to identify the household responsible." - which sounds like a threat. If he had said "every effort made to find the household and give them an extra bin", that would be more sensible.

People do not "generate rubbish" - they spend money. Just about everything that ends up in the bin originates in a purchase from a business. If everyone went extreme and reduced their expenditure to near-zero, Douglas Council would not be making much money from business rates.

Zero Waste Mann just entered the chat. 

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8 minutes ago, Two-lane said:

At least those people made the effort to put their rubbish in a bin, and not fly-tip it. Horning states:

" and every effort is made to identify the household responsible." - which sounds like a threat. If he had said "every effort made to find the household and give them an extra bin", that would be more sensible.

You pity the poor employee who is made to root through a pile of crap for receipts or envelopes. You’d hope there’s no dog 💩 in there. All in order to try to incriminate a ratepayer who is paying their wages so that they can then get a visit from an enforcement officer who they also pay the wages off. It’s straight out or a Brian Rix farce. Perhaps it will all end with Horning’s trousers falling off on the doorstep of the local vicar after a dumped utility mix up with next door!

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Are there any rules on what you can put in a public bin?

Is it limited to say the wrapping on a sandwich that you have just eaten alfresco?

What if you were just on your way out of the house and the postman delivers a bill. One with name and address on the envelope , not a window envelope.You put it in your pocket thinking “ I’ll have a look at that later”

You go for a walk along Douglas prom and decide to take a short sit down on a bench there. You remember the bill in your pocket and think “Ah ha now would be a good time to look at that”.

You peruse the bill and discard the envelope bearing your name and address into one of the public litter bins by the side of your bench. Rather than taking it home to put in your own domestic bin.

Do you get hunted down like a dirty dog once the envelope with your details comes to light upon the bin being emptied?

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This is madness large amounts of money have been spent over decades persuading people to use bins rather than litter now they are taking away the bins.   What comes next….I would guess some litter police will be appointed to wait until a sweet wrapper is dropped or discarded and pounce resulting in a massive fine.   It is time these jokers were kicked out of office and some sane and sensible people took there place.

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